“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.” page 209. In this scene, Atticus is discussing at breakfast Braxton Underwood's known hatred of black people. Alexandra is worried that he shouldn't talk about such things in front of Calpurnia. This relates to Alexandra's idea of Calpurnia leaving in chapter 14. This represents the theme of importance of family because Atticus is 'color-blind'. He doesn't see race, just people so talking about Braxton Underwood in front of Calpurnia isn't a big deal to him.
I love the analogy of Atticus being colorblind. I agree with you. Atticus sees people as who they are, not what their skin tells them to be. I think this is an important piece of Atticus' personality.
I love the analogy of Atticus being colorblind. I agree with you. Atticus sees people as who they are, not what their skin tells them to be. I think this is an important piece of Atticus' personality.
The way that Atticus sees Cal is sort of the way someone sees a step-parent that has always been in their life. Cal is an important part of Finch life, and I agree with Atticus in saying that she can hear anything that can be said at the table.
I agree with your idea of Atticus being "colorblind." Atticus is well aware of the racism in Maycomb. Even though he knew that he would lose respect for defending a black man, he did it anyway. Aunt Alexandra does not believe Calpurnia should be part of some conversations, but he intimately shuts her but saying she is family. I believe Jem and Scout will greatly benefit, and learn from the actions of the dad in the future.
I love how you refer to Atticus as "colorblind" because he does not see people for who they are on the outside. I also love how Atticus stands up for what he believes in and does not care what people think. I think it is so sweet how Atticus considers Calpurnia family!
Atticus trusts Calpurnia, relies on her for support raising his children, and considers her part of the family. In some ways she even takes the place of Scout and Jem's dead mother. Atticus just wants to make things clear for Aunt Alexandra. I like your idea of how Atticus sees Calpurnia. :)
I indeed like how you used the word "colorblind" to describe how Atticus sees people as who they are and does not judge them by their skin color. Calpurnia has done a lot for the Finch family and it wouldn't be the same without her.
I also like how you used the word "colorblind". It 100% relates to Atticus because he doesn't care what race you are as long as you are a good person with a heart.
Max, I really agree with you. No matter what anyone says to Atticus, nothing can change his mind when it comes to Calpurnia being a part of the family. I also agree with your analogy of Atticus being color blind because he does not look at people by the color of their skin, he looks at them through their hearts.
Max, I agree with you. I love how you used the word "colorblind" to indicate that Atticus sees people for who they are and not by the color of their skin.
I'm not being original here, but I had to mention how you used the word "colorblind" to symbolize his character. Great overall post. You always make a really good point.
I understand your opinion that Atticus is 'color blind' to race. I think he sees race but doesn't choose to let it influence his opinion of someone. It's not that he's oblivious to race, I feel it's more that it's irrelevant to him.
Atticus explains this to Aunt Alexandra as they eat breakfast in this scene. They are talking about Braxton Bragg and explaining how he hates negroes even though the night before, he helped protect Atticus with his shotgun in case one of the men with Atticus hurt him.
Nowadays, I don’t think there are a lot of people like Mr. Underwood. Of course, Mr. Underwood isn’t the only character in the book which feels this way. Many people in Maycomb have the same attitude towards African Americans such as Aunt Alexandra who doesn’t respect them as people whatsoever. He, and others like him, don’t like negroes because of their skin color. This is the definition of racism. Today, I don’t think people that are aware of the culture and lifestyle we live in today believe in this form of discrimination. I think that most people, in particular young people, have learned to accept everybody no matter their skin color, religion, or background. Of course, there will always be some primitive people that still suggest elementary forms of bullying and discrimination based on race similar to Mr. Underwood’s.
This correlates with the theme that there is a lot of damage done to African Americans and other groups of people considered lesser by others. Obviously, African Americans and the other groups that have been discriminated (such as Catholics and Jews for example) have feelings, too. After this continuous abuse from other people, it begins to take a toll on one’s self esteem and way of thinking. People like Mr. Underwood, who refuse to even be near somebody solely because of their skin color make the people feel unwanted, which they are. That kind of constant hatred eventually can give a person all kinds of mental problems and will simply make them feel bad about themselves. (Pg. 209, Paragraph 2)
I disagree with you about there not being many people like Mr. Underwood. Racism is still at large today but, not so much in this community. In Paris there have been many anti-semitic conflicts where Jewish children were forced to stay home from school and be protected by members of the french military.
I agree with you, Abby. With all of the racism in the community it would begin to take a toll on many people. So this scene definitely has a lot to do with the damage done by racism.
I disagree with Abby. I believe there are still a lot of people who are racist and discriminating to certain races, religions and ethnicities. Especially in the case of younger people, I believe that they bully kids because of their race and make inappropriate jokes.
I agree with Izzy. Even though we are trying very hard to put an end to racism, it definitely still occurs today. Luckily, racism does not happen as much as it did during the historical period of the Great Depression, but there is still some discrimination towards others. I think that most of the time people make racist comments as a joke, but it can still be hurtful to the person being made fun of.
I also disagree with you Abby. Although there has been great attempts to end racism it continues to be a problem in our society today. However, I do agree with you in the sense that it was a much larger problem during the Great Depression.
I agree with you Abby. There will always be people who discriminate against another race. It still seems to be a major problem though around the world, as it was for the U.S. in the early to mid 1900s.
I disagree with you, Abby. Although, things have definitely gotten better since this time period. Racism, discrimination, and judgement are still a major problem around the world today but not as bad as it was in the early 1900's.
This is a line of a conversation Scout hears as she’s waiting for Jem and Dill to come find her in the courthouse after she gets separated from them in the crowds. The men are schooled on the workings of the court and are talking about Atticus. They are saying that it is a negative thing that Atticus is planning to actually make a valid argument to defend Tom Robinson.
Atticus is an ethical man who will always do the right thing. He decides to do his best to help Tom Robinson with a goal to at least get his side of the story known to the witnesses. I like to think that I would do the same thing, although, it seems unlikely that I would risk so much of my own life just for my job and to help one person I barely know. If I’m going to do something, I say do it well, however, I don’t think I’d risk my health for it. For example, Atticus is approached by a group of men that are against Atticus’ plan to help Tom Robinson. They are willing to hurt Atticus if he keeps helping. In addition, Atticus has been getting threats from all over town, and even comments from his own family that he is doing the wrong thing; making the wrong choice. Nevertheless, in his heart, Atticus knows he’s doing the right thing. I’m not sure I could give that much up.
Next, this shows how unfair the legal system can be in America. The fact that the men are upset that Atticus is actually going to try to defend an African American man shows that men before Atticus haven’t tried hard. It is quite dismal, in fact, that a lawyer could choose to send a man to the electric chair simply because he has a different color skin. Lawyers can try however much they wish to protect their client. If the lawyer doesn’t want to, they don’t need to make an amazing argument. In particular, this was more common in the time period in which this book takes place. This is so unfair to anybody who doesn’t have a hardworking lawyer. Therefore, it shows that a person’s success in the courtroom can be greatly influenced by the lawyer they are using. The lawyer they are using can be unfair, leading to lots of favoritism in the courtroom. (Pg. 218, Paragraph 6)
This is so true. It is amazing and terrible to think that less than a century ago, the people in our country were as racist and intolerable as they were in this chapter. Atticus is judged for a decision that most people would take today, and save a man that they think is innocent from getting killed, just because the majority of the community is racist.
I completely agree. Lawyers have a huge impact on the verdict of the trial and it is very courageous of Atticus to defend Tom Robinson despite what the community thinks.
“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don’t like about it.” Page 218
In this scene Scout overhears a group of men who are talking about the trial before it happens. They are not pleased about the fact that Atticus plans on trying to get Tom Robinson to go free.
This racist mentality of a town is disturbing. What is crazy to me is the fact that the people of the town are not only racist towards Tom and want to convict and kill him, they hate Atticus for trying to defend him too. He is only trying to do his job, and he should not be judged for doing it. This is something that is almost incomprehensible in todays world. I would defend Tom if I were in Atticus’s position. He almost does not see race. He does not care whether or not a person is black or white, he just sees if they are a good person or not. That may be one of the reasons why he is defending Tom, because he thinks that Tom is a better person than any of the Ewells. I know that I would defend Tom.
This quote connects to the theme of how racism affects people. Atticus was seen as a respected individual person in Maycomb before he decided to defend Tom. But his just decision to defend somebody who he thinks is innocent has changed how people in his town see him, and his life in general. Atticus is a great person who doesn’t see race as something that matters, and acts as such.
I completely agree with your main ideas. I hoped that Atticus would gain more respect for trying to defend a black man. Instead, he is criticized, and seen as a disgrace to some in Maycomb. Though Atticus is not loved by many, I hope he will positively impact some of the people of Maycomb through his actions.
I also agree with your main point. It is insane to me how a little peaceful town can be torn up because a white man is going to defend a black man in a case that he may not even committed.
I agree 100% how could people of Maycomb be upset with Atticus for doing his job and seeing the better in people. In my opinion people should admire Atticus for being so brave.
I agree with you completely. There is no reason for the people of Maycomb to hold a grudge against Atticus for doing his job and defending Tom Robinson, it is very disturbing. I agree with the idea that Atticus doesn't see a gap between the races as well.
I agree with all the previous comments and Kyle, the people of Maycomb shouldn't be mad at Atticus because he is defending Tom. He is doing the right thing and I wish that he would receive more support.
I strongly agree with you and Francesca because Atticus is doing his job and it is sad how extremely racist people can be and how some people feel like they can do anything they want and during this time era there probably wasn't much fairness in the court of law.
I disagree. Although today in our society, remarks like that are looked down upon, these townsmen have the right to the freedom of speech (#MERICA). Who cares what the townsmen say, as long as Atticus doesn't let it get under his skin he's fine.
Magnus, I respectfully disagree with your comment. Although those men do have the freedom of speech that does not justify their racism towards Tom and their cruelty towards Atticus. They should see Atticus as a good lawyer for defending his client to the best of his abilities.
Magnus, I see where you're coming from, but just because you're legally allowed to do something doesn't mean that you should. It must be difficult for Atticus not to let racist comments get to him, and with negative verbal remarks being ok, it would just be a gateway to further abuse.
“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.” Page 209.
In this scene, Atticus explains to Aunt Alexandra that Calpurnia is part of the family, and is able to be a part of any conversation no matter the topic. By having Calpurnia be part of these conversations, she is able to help the kids understand the mistakes that were made in situations, why it happened, and the lessons to be learned from it.
I strongly agree with what Atticus says to Calpurnia. In my home, my parents are not afraid of having certain adult conversation around me. They know that valuable lessons can be taught through the situations which may help me in adulthood. In my opinion, this style of parenting benefits me in many ways. I now have a better knowledge on how to handle common problems I might face, and avoid possible issues that can escalate in the future.
The theme that connects to this scene is the importance of home and family. Atticus family is so important to him. By running it the way his does creates an honest and open environment for everyone. When it gets to the point where family members tell stories behind each others back, it can create larger problems. Calpurnia takes on the mother role for Jem and Scout. When she is not aware of the amount of knowledge they have on a topic, she is not able to judge how much information to give them.
I completely agree with you. In this sense Calpurnia is a vessel to let Jem and Scout understand what is going on in their town but in their own home. I also agree that when parents have adult conversation with us, we learn more about facing problems we might run into. It’s a way we learn how to deal with a event that needs to be handled. In this case it make the kids understand how to help themselves, rather always going to the parent for help.
I agree with you too. There have been a few 'arguments' between Atticus and Alexandra about Calpurnia and her place in the Finch's home. She has been with them so long it would be silly if she wasn't considered a member of the Finch family
I agree with you, Javen. Calpurnia is such a huge person in the lives of Scout and Jem. And this scene really has a lot to do with the importance of family. I think that that was a very good text-to-self connection because all of us here can relate to this scene.
I agree with you Javen. Calpurnia is a mother figure to Jem and Scout and she is practically a member of the Finch Family. Families are supposed to be open with each other and they are, which Alexandra disagrees with. Cal has taught the children so many valuable lessons and other things that couldn't have been taught if these stories weren't being shared with one another.
I agree with you Javen. Calpurnia has acted as a mother to Scout and Finch and does have a right to know what is going on despite what Aunt Alexandria says. Calpurnia has been with the Finches through so much that Aunt Alexandria needs to realize she is a part of the family.
I agree with you as well. Calpurnia has been there for Jem and Scout and is like a mother to them. I also believe its important to not keep anything from each other and rather be open about current situations.
“ But around here once you have a drop of Negro blood, that makes you all black”. Middle of page 216
In this scene, Jem, Dill and Scout are in front of the courthouse, waiting for the trail to start. While in the square, Scout then asks about half black people in the town. Jem explains to Scout that you just have to know who they are. But, also tells her that if you have a drop of black blood in you, in the town you’re black. They are not accepted into society at all. African americans accepted each other, but in this case no one accepts them. White people dont accept them because they’re part black, and African Americans don’t accept them because they’re part white. They live in a harsh, cruel society.
In contrast to today's standards, there are none. Everyone is accepted for who they are, whether they are black, white or Asian. That time period was known for being tyrannical and unfair. But in this case, no one accepts them. They are in between societies who aren’t accepted them at all for what they are. While now diversity has spread its wings and made an impact over our culture. If not for the spread of culture you could say goodbye to Italian food, Japanese food, Chinese food and many others. Accepting people as what they are is the new way of the 21st century.
In this quote it shares the damage done by racism. Since they were half white and half black the stood out in two societies. They stood out in the black society and the white society. Since they are black, white people don’t accept them. Since they are white, Black people didn’t accept them. The damage done from racism had marked the town most indefinitely. So many opinions had racist remarks to them setting African Americans more trusting in themselves than anyone else.
I agree with you, Sarah. That time period was defiantly Tyrannical, there was no equal justice, and it was unfair. Also I am very happy that we do not live in an environment like that today, because today, it would be a lot worse.
I completely agree with you Sarah. It must have been incredibly hard for those kids during the time period. They where not excepted by anyone and it was because of something that was out of their control; they can't change who they are.
I completely agree! Though it's quite strong of statement, it's completely true, at least for that time period. Being part Black posed a big problem for some who were unsure what to chose when it came to facilities that segregated by race, for example, segregated fountains, churches, doors etc.
“Well how do you know we ain't Negroes?" "Uncle Jack Finch says we really don't know. He says as far as he can trace back the Finches we ain't, but for all he knows we mighta come straight out of Ethiopia durin' the Old Testament."" "Well if we came out durin' the Old Testament it's too long ago to matter." "That's what I thought," said Jem, "but around here once you have a drop of Negro blood, that makes you all black." Page 216.
In this scene Jem, Dill and Scout notice a small boy holding a Negro woman’s hand and they didn’t know how you could tell if the boy was black or not, Then Scout asks how do they know if they are negroes.
To me, this isn’t right at all, you shouldn’t be called Negro if you have one drop of it in your blood, what about the gallons of white blood. Also how can blood be classified as black or white, it does not make sense. They should not have to worry if they are black or white, just look at your skin, there you go.
This part of the scene has to do with the theme of the damage done by racism. Scout should not have to worry about whether they are black or white, because they have a loving father who obviously treats blacks just as well as whites so it wouldn’t matter to him. On the other hand Aunt Alexandra would freak out if you were black, and talking with their family, which should not be the case, but not everyone can love you.
I like the way you are describing your thoughts. If you are half white and half black you will be sad because you do not have any specific race?. They do not belong anywhere. Jem, Dill and Scout say that maybe because they are surrounded by people who act in a mean way when referring to white or black person like Lula with exception of Atticus and Calpurnia.
“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don’t like about it.” Chapter 16, page 218
This is a quote from a portion of a conversation between a few “White shirted, khaki trousers, suspendered old men.” Scout is walking and eavesdrops in on the conversation that these men are having about her father and the case he is defending. Atticus is defending the Tom Robinson case.
What I found disturbing was that Tom Robinson is being accused of rape partially because of his race. Tom Robinson is a black man and in the 1930’s there was an extreme amount of discrimination against race’s that were not white. Atticus is a lawyer and is defending Tom Robinson. The residents of maycomb that are mainly white are upset about the fact that a white man is defending a black man who is an accused criminal. Atticus is attempting to do his job and looks past the fact that he is black and looks at the real facts, the evidence. In todays world, there have been incidents where lawyers have received threats or been vandalized for defending people that have been accused of a serious crime. I was watching T.V about a year ago and saw something which I cannot remember if it was fiction of non fiction. A lawyer had left his office and planned to go home and found his car destroyed and vandalized because he was defending a case others did not had a biased opinion about. This is similar to things people are saying about Atticus and his position in the Tom Robinson case.
The theme that this connects to most is, Is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? This shows that there truly is not because Tom is being accused of an extreme crime mainly because of his race. That disturbs me a tremendous amount because the united states government says that one is innocent until proven guilty but, most people assume he is guilty because of his race. The people of Maycomb think he is guilty and the jury most likely will have a biased opinion because of his race too. This proves that in this particular case, there is not justice for all under the united states law.
I agree with you. It seems like in Maycomb the punishment for a crime is based on the color of the people. No matter if Tom was innocent or guilty he will still go to the chair just because of his color. It may also has to do with tom being accused by white people.
I agree with you, Francesca. It appears that in Maycomb county, race plays a huge role in how one is treated under the law. It is so unfair that Tom was accused of rape when there is hardly any evidence to suggest that this really happened. The jury of this particular court seems to be extremely biased and therefore, they shouldn't be allowed to determine the final outcome of the case.
I agree with you Francesca. Within Maycomb county a large part of the law system is determined by your race. This of course leads to many unfair trials like in the case of Tom Robinson. I also strongly agree that the jugement of people due to their race is disturbing.
I agree, Francesca. Clearly Maycomb is an extremely racist town that just assumes Tom is guilty because of his race. Also, how is Tom being judged by a jury of his peers if all of the jurors are white.
I’m completely agree with. I feel that Tom Robinson is been accused of a crime based on his race and, I think that during this historical period in 30s there were segregation on people, and most of Maycomb people assume he’s guilty just because colored of his skin.
“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.” “I don’t think it’s a good habit, Atticus.It encourages them.You know how they talk among themselves. Everything that happens in this town’s out of the Quarters before sundown.” “... Why don’t you drink your coffee, Scout?”
In these scene, Aunt Alexandra tells Atticus not to make comments like the one he just made about Mr. Underwood in front of Calpurnia or any other African-American.Atticus responds by saying that it is nothing Cal doesn’t already know, and that anything can be said in front of Calpurnia’s ears. Calpurnia is a family member for the Finch family.
I strongly agree with Atticus. Aunt Alexandra just keep being kind of mean and tries to make Calpurnia less than her. She treats Calpurnia strictly as a black servant beneath her level in life. Atticus has been clear about Calpurnia and does not want Alexandra treating her different.
The theme that connects with with this scene is the importance of home and family. Again Atticus is defending Calpurnia from Aunt Alexandra and this time not only Cal but all the Black people in Maycomb, including Tom Robison. Atticus wants Aunt Alexandra to treat Cal like a family member and to says things just the way they are in front of Calpurnia’s ears. Atticus treats people equally no matter what their color is or if they have money.
I agree. I feel that it would maybe make Calpurnia feel more like family if the Finch's talk about everything in front of her. I loved this scene because it showed just how much of a family member Calpurnia truly is.
Yeimi, I think that Alexandra is actually so mean with Cal, this is not the first time that she offends Calpurnia. Aunt Alexandra is definitely racist and I agree when Atticus defends Calpurnia from his sister.
I agree with the fact that Aunt Alexandra thinks less of Calpurnia and that she can be racist. However, I don't think that Aunt Alexandra is telling Atticus not to say that Braxton Bragg hates black people because she is being mean. I think she just thought it may be offensive to Calpurnia when he said this. I also think it really does show how Calpurnia is part of the family when he says he can say anything in front of her.
I definitely agree with you. This was one of my favorite scenes because not only does it show that Calpurnia is part of the Finch family, but Atticus is also standing up to Aunt Alexandra. I like how Atticus believes that he can discuss anything with Calpurnia. It shows that he trusts her and once again, that she is part of the family.
“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don't like about it.” Page 218.
In this scene, Scout is listening to the conversation of a group of men. They are discussing the trial and how they don't like the idea of Atticus defending Tom Robinson. They do not like that Atticus is fighting for a black man, when the race of Tom Robinson should not matter at all.
If I was placed in the shoes of Atticus I would defend Tom Robinson. Even though Maycomb is such a racist community, I feel that based on who I am, I would defend him. When you become a lawyer you are supposed to fight for everyone equally. So there is no way that I would not fight for Tom Robinson. I believe that everyone should be treated equally no matter what race or ethnicity you are. That’s why it is such a tough job for Atticus. Morally, Atticus feels that he must defend Tom Robinson, but with so much racism in Maycomb, it will be difficult to win. So if I was in Atticus’s shoes I would defend him despite how people would see me.
This scene connects to the theme of the damage done by racism and the true definition of courage. It connects with the damage done by racism because Atticus is now seen differently because he is defending Tom Robinson. So now the whole Finch family is seen differently and looked down upon because Atticus is defending a black man. It has to do with the true definition of courage because even though there is so much hate against what Atticus is doing, he still is going to do his job. Atticus is being very courageous and despite what people think about him, he will never back down from defending Tom.
I would defend Tom Robinson too. Lawyers should defend everyone no matter their race and everyone should be treated equally on trial. However, I do understand why people aren't defending Tom. In such a racist town like Maycomb, it's hard to be as brave as Atticus is being.
I totally agree and believe people should be treated equally no matter there or race. Atticus is a dry courageous man and I believe this case with Tom Robinson will make a difference in their community towards colored people if Tom Robinson is found innocent.
“‘Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.’ ‘I don’t think it’s a good habit, Atticus. It encourages them. You know how they talk among themselves. Everything that happens in this town’s out to the Quarters before sundown.’ My father put down his knife. ‘I don’t know of any law that says they can’t talk. Maybe if we didn’t give them so much to talk about they’d be quiet. Why don’t you drink your coffee, Scout?’” Chapter 16 Pages 209-210
In this portion of the book, Atticus was describing how Mr. Underwood despises blacks, and Aunt Alexandra suggests to Atticus that he not talk like that while Calpurnia is present. Atticus responds by saying that Cal is nearly family, and that anything that is worthy of being said at the table can be said to her face. Aunt Alexandra replies to Atticus that it is a bad habit, and that all the African Americans do is talk. She believes that word spreads to the outskirts of town in no time if they are to know something. Atticus says to her that they have a right to talk especially because whites are often times the ones that give them things to talk about. It is clear that Alexandra and Atticus have very different views on certain subjects, this case being one of them.
When I was younger, my aunt would separate the younger children from the adults into 2 tables at holiday dinners. She thought that we were too young to enjoy or understand conversations that the adults may have. However, as I got older, the two tables began to integrate into one table, and I began to grasp the more complex ideas and I was able to converse on a more mature level. By working with the Finches for so many years, Cal has become one of the family and they talk around her no differently than they do with each other. This is similar to my experience because over time as I grew older, I became a part of adult conversation.
This section of the story relates to the themes of the damage done by racism and the importance of home and family. Aunt Alexandra has a prejudice against African Americans. She holds blacks responsible for the rapid spread of word throughout the area. She thinks that Cal is just their servant and she doesn’t understand or agree with Atticus’ decision to have her work for them. Calpurnia, although not related by blood, is a member of the Finch Family, and it is hard for Alexandra to accept this.
I totally agree with you. Just because Calpurnia is African-American doesn't mean she shouldn't be treated any less than a mature adult. Aunt Alexandra just doesn't understand this.
“He Just has blind spots like the rest of us.” Page 210, Chapter 16
In this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem how Mr. Cunningham is his friend he just has his moments like everyone. Jem is confused because Mr. Cunningham came at Atticus with a knife. Atticus says to Jem that people sometimes forget who they are when they are in a mob. Jem does not seem to understand but, Atticus says he will as he gets older.
I strongly disagree with what Atticus is trying to say to Jem about Mr. Cunningham. He says that Mr. Cunningham is mostly a good man, this does not make any sense. You can not say someone is mostly your friend or mostly a good man if they come at you with a knife with the intent to hurt you, it does not matter if it is in a mob or not that is unacceptable. Sometimes friends get into fights but they never try to actually harm each other. Mr. Cunningham and Atticus disagree about the trial but, the fact that Mr. Cunningham tried to harm Atticus shows he is not a mostly good man but a bad man. Whenever my friends and I disagree on something we do not try and stab each other we try to talk it out, or we just don’t talk until it blows over. We never try to hurt each other. I wonder why Atticus is being so calm about Mr. Cunningham trying to hurt him, If I were in his place I would be furious. If Mr. Cunningham was a true friend he would respect Atticus’s decision and not try to harm him.
This quote connects to the true definition of courage. Atticus is going against what his friends and the people in his town think. It has come to the point where one of his “friends” tried to hurt him. Atticus is putting himself at risk for something he believes is right, we see this to be a major topic throughout the book. From Lulu kicking Scout and Jem out if the Church to Scout dressing the way she wants despite what Mrs. Dubose told her, a major theme of this book is doing what you believe is right and not giving into societies pressures. Atticus is facing a danger that a lot of us fear; not fitting into society but, he is sticking to his guns.
I actually agree with Atticus, because Mr. Cunningham was just going along with the group. He is friends with Atticus, but the group of men wanted to harm Atticus on account of him helping Tom Robinson, not any personal reasons.
This is a very conflicting topic. I agree with both of you but at the same time, I don't 100% see your point of view. Although Mr. Cunningham was trying to harm Atticus, it was only orders from his leader. At the same time, Atticus doesn't believe in Mr. Cunningham's group's beliefs. Mr. Cunningham joined that group with intent of hurting/ scaring people either supporting African- Americans, or someone who is African- American.
Teddy, what leader are you referring to? If Walter Cunningham was really a good man, he wouldn't go through with attempting to do harm based on racist opinions. If the group was peer pressuring him to do so, then he lacks true courage that would've been needed to leave the group, but I don't think this was the case. Therefore, I agree with Max. One who uses violence to solve disputes should not be considered a good man.
“Well how do you know we ain’t Negroes?” “… That’s what I thought,” said Jem, “but around here once you have a drop of Negro blood, that makes you all black.” pg. 216
In this scene, while Jem, Scout and Dill are outside of the courthouse waiting for the trial, they talk about this type of racism in the town. Jem explains to Scout why neither white people or African Americans accept half black people at all.
During the Great Depression, colored people where discriminated in the United States, mostly in the south. The kids are facing this period where things were so difficult for African Americans. Today, it doesn’t matter at all where you born or which is your race, everyone has the same rights and the ability of interact with different races. However, the racism stills in some people, but fortunately there are few of them.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Having a mixture of races, make a big damage. For example in the scene I mentioned before, black people have to seat in the balcony of the courthouse to see the trial while withes are seating on the bank. Also, people who has drop of Negro blood are being discriminated by both cultures.
"You know, it's a funny thing about Braxton," said Atticus. "He despises Negroes, won't have one near him." Page 209.
In this scene, Atticus is talking to Aunt Alexandra at the breakfast table about Braxton Bragg. Braxton Bragg had covered Atticus the night before with a shotgun, when a mob came to the Maycomb jail to harm Tom Robinson. Atticus finds it weird that Braxton helped him because he hates African Americans yet he protected Tom and him.
I find Mr. Underwood a very interesting character. In the book, it says it’s known by the whole town that he hates black people however, he defends Tom’s right to a fair trial. Mr. Underwood believes in justice for everyone, despite his feelings towards black people. There aren’t many people like Mr. Underwood in this story however, I believe most people today are like him. A lot of people today discriminate against different races and make inappropriate jokes, but yet I believe that most people believe in equal rights.
This quote relates to the theme of the damage done by racism. Mr. Underwood wouldn’t even go near a black person soulfully because of their skin color. Many people in Maycomb county felt the same way. The discrimination that African Americans faced during times like the Great Depression made them feel lowly and it greatly impacted their self esteem. To think that someone wouldn’t come near me just because of something I can’t even control is awful.
I completely agree that Mr. Underwood is a very interesting character that has his beliefs about black people but in a way has his morals, such as you stated justice and equality. I also agree with the fact that discrimination was terrible in Maycomb.
“Why’s he sittin’ with the colored folks?” “Always does. He likes ‘em better’n he likes us, I reckon…” page 214
In this scene, Jem is informing Scout about Mr. Dolphus Raymond. Scout wonders why Mr. Dolphus is sitting with the black people before the trial rather than the white people. Jem tells her that this is because he likes the black people better. He is married to a colored woman and has a few children. His children are mixed races and Jem says that nobody wants anything to do with people who are both races.
What I find disturbing in this book is that everyone is judged based on the color of their skin. In Fact, during this historical period there was a lot of segregation and racism that occurred. A man who reminds me of Mr. Dolphus, and a few other characters in To Kill a Mockingbird, is Martin Luther King. Martin Luther King was a black man who sought equality for all African American people. He fought for equality by peacefully protesting with other black men and women. Both Martin Luther King and Mr. Dolphus Raymond believe that all races are equal and should have the same rights, which is why I believe they are similar.
The theme that connects to this scene is the true definition of courage. Mr. Dolphus is making a courageous choice by becoming close with the black people in his town. Maycomb is a very racist and segregated community, so a lot a people will not agree with Mr. Dolphus’ actions. In their mind the blacks are supposed to be separate from the whites. This is why it surprised me when he was sitting with the blacks before Tom Robinson’s trial. Also, Mr. Dolphus Raymond married a colored woman, so it is obvious that he does not care what others think of him from what I have read so far.
What I find weird is that the people of Maycomb are judging a white man for sitting with "colored folks", even though he prefers them over white folks. He obviously doesn't care about skin color, because he has a black wife and children. What confuses me is why he is tolerant, while the rest of the people in Maycomb are so judgmental.
“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don't like about it.” page 218.
In this scene, scout was separated from Jem and Dill and she was waiting for Jem to come for her eventually. While she was waiting, she heard a group of white shirted. They were talking about the trial and arguing about her father, Atticus. They were upset about Atticus defending Tom Robinson, in the trial I don’t think race would matter and it should be equal to everyone.
I agree with what Atticus is trying to do. Atticus does’t matter either Tom Robinson is white or black. He defend Tom Robinson because it is his job and he thinks equally. If I was Atticus, I would do the same thing what Atticus have done. There are many racist people in Maycomb and they might hate and harm you, but I would still defend Tom Robinson and be fair because that is the right choice to do.
This scene relate to the theme of the damage done by racism. Just because of Tom Robinson’s race, he shouldn't be treated as a criminal before they even find out if he is innocent or not. In my opinion, I think that the trial and the punishment in Maycomb is depend on the race of people andI think it doesn’t matter who you are, but what does really matter is what ever you do.
I completely agree! At that day and age, supporting someone who was African American and convicted of rape is quite a difficult case to defend. This also shows the theme of courage in terms of Atticus's actions.
I agree with you as well and find Atticus to be very courageous because although many people don't want him defending Tom Robinson because of his race, Atticus is looking past that and is treating him equally.
I agree with you in that all of this seems so extreme due to the racism in our country during the 1930s. In this modern era, many of us think that we would make the same decision as Atticus, but consider what he put at risk in choosing to defend Tom Robinson. Would you put your life and your family's life in danger, and risk most of the town looking at you in disgust to defend a black man whose conviction was virtually guaranteed?
“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don’t like about it.” page 218
This is a quote from a scene of a conversation between a few men, when Scout is walking and hears in on the conversation that these men are having about her father and how Atticus is defending the Tom Robinson case.
What I thought was disturbing was that Tom Robinson is being accused of rape partially because of his race. Tom Robinson is a black man and in the 1930’s-1950’s there was an extreme amount of discrimination against race’s that were not white. The people of maycomb that are mainly white are upset about the fact that a white man is defending a black man who is accused crime. Atticus is trying to do his job and looks past the fact that he is black and looks at the real facts and the evidence. In todays society, there have been many incidents where lawyers have received threats or have been vandalized for defending people that have been accused of a serious crime or did not like who they were defending.
The theme that this connects to most is, Is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? This case in the story shows that there truly is not because Tom is being accused of a crime mainly because of his race. That bothers me a lot because the U.S. government says that you are “innocent until proven guilty” but, most people in Maycomb county assume he is guilty and that he committed the crime because of his race and because the victim of the alleged “rape” is white. The judge and jury will most likely have a biased decision because of his race too. This proves that in this particular case, there is not justice for all under the united states law.
I agree, almost everyone in the town already believes that Tom did the crime. There is not even really any evidence against him yet but being black was reason enough to send him to jail for a crime that he may not have committed.
On PG# 209, Atticus states, “Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.”
In this scene, Atticus is confronted by Aunt Alexandra over is loud speech about topics concerning Calpurnia and other African Americans in the community. The quote is his response. He states that anything fit for the table, as in the type of conversations spoken at dinner which are respectful and sometimes important. Then Atticus mentions, “She know what she means,” an interesting response which took me a bit to fully understand.
The major theme taken from this quote is the importance of home, family and trust. Atticus has great respect for Calpurnia, and respects their differences, this enacts a type of mother role for Calpurnia. Atticus also speaks about important matters while well aware that Calpurnia is listening, this shows a clear level of trust.
“Well how do you know we ain’t Negroes?” “Uncle Jack Finch says we really don’t know. He says as far as he can trace back the Finches we ain’t, but for all he knows we mighta come straight out of Ethiopia durin’ the Old Testament.” “Well if we came out durin’ the Old Testament it’s too long ago to matter.” “That’s what I thought,” said Jem, “but around here once you have a drop of Negro blood, that makes you all black. Hey look-” page 216
During this chapter, Jem is talking to Scout about how one drop of Negro blood automatically makes you black. Scout wondered if the Finches could be black and how could you really tell if someone is black or white or both based on their looks. They discussed the children who were both black and white and Jem pointed some out. He told Scout that black people don’t want them, because they’re half white and vice versa. These kids are kind of stuck in the middle with nowhere to go and no one who really wants them.
In 1960, a young girl named Ruby Bridges was one of the first African American students to attend an all white elementary school. Parents wanted nothing to do with her, just like the biracial children of Maycomb. They took their children out of school or brought them to other schools, because they didn’t want Ruby near them. People were very closed minded about her joining an all white school. Ruby had to be protected everywhere she went and wasn’t allowed to leave the classroom without an escort, for fear of people trying to hurt her. A main point in this chapter is the damage done by racism, because one race doesn’t want anything to do with another and Ruby Bridges and the biracial children of Maycomb are a perfect example of that.
Another point is that change can be very frightening, and some people do not know how to handle this fear. Sometimes it takes time to get used to a new situation and embrace the positive aspects.
"He might have hurt me a little,” Atticus conceded, “but son, you’ll understand folks a little better when you’re older. A mob’s always made up of people, no matter what. Mr. Cunningham was part of a mob last night, but he was still a man. " Pg: 210 L:16
So it took an eight-year-old child to bring ‘em to their senses, didn’t it?” Said Atticus. “That proves something-that a gang of wild animals can be stopped, simply because they’re still human”
I totally agree, to show that someone is wrong is not required to be of age and have an extensive knowledge only need to know is right. And have the courage to face a group of people with the same thought, punish Tom Robinson.
The themes that connect to this scene are the meaning of courage , explains how even bad people, you can still have a bit of good heart in them. In this quote Scouts said Mr. Cunningham in the group of men from the mafia, and talked with him as an adult, repeatedly mentioned his son, and his family, so this would have resulted in him, he is a father, and he is a part of a family that has good thoughts that reminds you of reality, as if the gangsters went to jail and either injure or kill Tom Robinson, who would have a negative emotional impact on them. After Mr. Cunningham spoke to the crowd then stepped back. This shows that from scout pointed to this man, it is shown that when a group of men are in a crowd, allowing them to hide behind each other, and forget reality, while only goal for the target principal, which would either hurt or kill Tom Robinson. In the end, what he did was scout a very brave act, and the bonds of trading on very well because nicely demonstrates that there is always a little heart to someone, and when they are reminded that they are doing something very wrong, you can get the reverse, like what happened during the talk with Mr. Cunningham Scouts.
I like your quote and I agree, because Jem made the men realize that hurting someone is obviously wrong. Like you said, the men not harming Atticus showed that they did have a heart, that they did care.
Atticus claims that every man has a heart, but in our world today we observe so many terrible things happening from bombings to terrorist attacks. If these people truly have a heart, what does it take for us to get through to them?
“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.” Page 209.
In this scene Atticus is explaining to Aunt Alexandria that Cal is welcome to hear anything discussed at their dinner table. She is just as much part of the family as any of the rest of them are.
I strongly agree with Atticus standing up to his sister and telling her that Cal is an important part of the family. Throught the story Atticus has been a very thoughtful character and always very deliberate in his actions. Additionally, when it comes to Cal being a part of the family he also feels very strongly. This reminds me of a good friend of mine who was being raised by a single parent as well. In her family she had a nanny and that nanny helped to raise her and was a crucial member of her childhood. this is very similar to Cal’s situation because both are treated as members of the family. I feel that a family is not only made of blood, but the people that you bring into your life are also your family. this relates to the theme of the importance of home and family. Cal has been such an important member of their family that it would be criminal to treat her otherwise. Atticus is a firm believer in not keeping things from one another. Thus creating a very accepting home environment which is a very important part of Jem and Scout’s childhoods.
“Half white, half colored. You’ve seen ‘em, Scout. You know that red-kinky-headed one that delivers for the drugstore. He’s half white. They’re real sad.” Page 215.
In this scene, Jem is talking to Scout about the Raymond kids and how it is sad that they are half black and half white because they don’t belong anywhere.
Nowadays, people (especially in Fox Lane) have very diverse friend groups and support groups. In most all friendships race doesn’t play much of a role, if any at all. In contrast to today, back then whites couldn’t be friends with blacks and vice-versa. Also, if you were half and half, you were neglected by both groups. Jem thinks it is sad because the Raymond children are oppressed by both groups.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. When kids are born, they don’t get to choose their race, it can’t be changed, it isn’t like somebodies personality. So people shouldn’t be judged because of their race. Back in Maycomb during the Great Depression, races stuck together, and so the poor kids that were biracial had nobody but themselves. The Raymond kids were probably very nice, fun loving kids, but they wouldn’t get the chance to show it just because of their race.
“How can you tell?” asked Dill. “He looked up to me.” “You can’t sometimes, not unless you know who they are. But he’s half Raymond, all right.” “But how can you tell?” I asked. “I told you, Scout, you just hafta know who they are.” (Page 216)
In this scene Jem is telling Scout and Dill of Mr. Dolphus, a white man, who married a black women and had mixed children; half white and half colored. Jem explains to them that they are in a bad position because the white folks won't accept them because they’re half colored and colored folks won't accept them because they're half white.
I feel sorry for the Mr. Dolphus’ kids who have to experience not being able to fit into a community because they are half white and half colored. The fact that two of Mr. Dolphus’ children had to be sent up north because they weren’t accepted at home is a terrible thing. In the quote above Dill and Scout ask Jem how they can tell the kids apart from regular black children and he responds saying, you just have to know. As Mr. Dolphus’ kid walks by Scout realizes he looks no different than any other black kid. This reveals that although he is colored, because of who his father is he is treated differently.
This relates to the theme of the damage done by racism. The damage done by racism is represented in this chapter by the unwelcoming of Mr. Dolphus’ kids in the white community and in the black community. The segregation has made Maycomb a town where people aren’t given the opportunity to express themselves and be who they want.
I agree, it's really sad that just because the children are mixed that they are not welcomed by either group. The fact the one of the Dolphus children look no different than any other black child and is still not accepted into any group is horrible.
Atticus: “That proves something- that a gang of animals can be stopped, simply because they’re still human.” Page 210
In this scene, Atticus is justifying Mr. Cunninghams reasons for trying to harm him the previous night. He claims that he wouldn't have killed him, because every gang member is a human. According to Atticus, as long as someone is human they will be reluctant to take another’s life.
This scene relates to modern times, simply because there are still gangs alive in America. One of the most notorious gangs ever in the U.S. was the mafia. They originated selling alcohol when it was outlawed in the 20s but it escalated into a murderous and violent group that started in NYC. If you look closely the two scenes are very similar. One gang hates a certain race of people, so they go after the man representing one in a court case. One gang sells alcohol illegally, so they would go after the people who would, 1) try to arrest them, or 2) buy the liquor and never pay. Unfortunately, these groups still live on today.
This situations relates to the true meaning of courage. Although Atticus may not hunt animals with a gun, he is brave enough to stand up to a very dangerous gang. He claims they can be stopped, which is very bold to say. I think that his children are finally starting to see that Atticus is actually very brave, he isn’t afraid to confront the man who just attempted to stab him. With this mentally, I think Jem and Scout will start to notice his bravery more.
Teddy, I agree with you completely. Atticus is a great example to Scout and Jem because he encounters difficult situations and makes mistakes, yet he handles those situations with grace and he figures out a way to get his children to learn from his, and their, mistakes, just like how Atticus chooses not to fight with violence. Well said, Teddy.
"Lemme tell you something' now, Billy," a third said, "you know the court appointed him to defend this nigger." "Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That's what I don't like about it."Ch.16 page 218
In this scene Scout overhears a few men talking about his father, Atticus and criticizing him for defending an African American man named Tom Robinson. Tom Robinson was convicted of raping a girl because of the color of his skin. People were disturbed that a white man was defending a black man. I find this disturbing that people are willing to convict a man of raping a girl because of his race. This case would change Tom's life forever, he would be known as an African American rapist. Imagine being convicted of something because of the color of your skin and being locked up for something you didn't do.
The themes that connect to this scene are, is there really justice for all under the law in the United States and the true definition of courage. Atticus is courageous because he is white and he is defending an African American man, who was convicted of raping a girl because of his race.
Rendy, I love your insight on this. People need to realize that all people are people, no matter what color their skin is. They also need to think about their actions. One accusation can ruin a man's life.
“You goin’ to court this morning?” asked Jem. We had strolled over. “I am not,” she said. “I have no business with the court this morning.” “Aren’t you goin’ down to watch?” asked Dill. “I am not. ’t’s morbid, watching a poor devil on trial for his life. Look at all those folks, it’s like a Roman carnival.” p. 213
In this scene, Jem and Dill ask Miss Maudie whether she will be attending the court. Miss Maudie chooses not to go because she believes that it’ll be like a Roman carnival.
A Roman carnival consisted of people gathering to watch the slaughtering of an animal. Miss Maudie used a simile to explain that the court case of Tom Robinson would not go well. She believed that Atticus would not win, and Tom would get wrecked in the courthouse because of all the racism in the air.
The theme relating to this scene is the damage done by racism. The reason why I chose this theme is because the fact that Miss Maudie, a reasonable, kind woman, has no faith whatsoever in Atticus or Tom shows that the segregation and racism in their town in that time period is way too extreme. Miss Maudie did not even need to hesitate before assuming that Atticus and Tom would have no chance at trial victory.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2932.html This article discusses the Dred Scott v.s. Sanford court case. This court case was about a slave, Dred Scott, that wanted to be free, but could not be free because he was an African American. This article relates to the theme, damage done by racism, because it shows a man that cannot be free because of the color of his skin. I believe that that is unacceptable.
I was once going to go to a sports game with my friend, and we were planning to go for months. We were very excited, and all of a sudden, she did not want to go because she knew the team she was rooting for had scarce chance of winning because their best player could not play in the game. This is quite similar to the scene of Miss Maudie, Dill, and Jem.
It’s very surprising and upsetting to me that people’s faith in others can be affected by racism.
" They don't belong anywhere . Colored folks won't have'em 'cause they're white ; white folks won't have'em cause they're colored . ... Don't belong anywhere. Pg 215 In this scene Jem is explaining to Scout on why Dolphus Raymond's kids are not excepted to either races. I know how it feels to not be not accepted by either group. For years it's been hard for me to have friends that are " American" because I was Latina ; and have hispanic friends because they didn't like that I was also American . It feels like they don't like me for me but where I was born and where my parents originated from . In this scene the main theme was the effect of racism . People in the Maycomb community cannot set aside the color of someones skin or what their parents are . The kids of Dolphus have to discriminated only by their skin color . Not because of what they do or act in life ( Even though it's not right to do that either).
Great point Emily. It is sad that today some people can't look beyond color or race. The kids of Dolphus had a great deal of trouble not be excepted by either race. I like how you said it doesn't matter how they act or what they do. Sadly this was true in some areas back then.
You know that red-kinky- headed one that delivers for the drugstore. He’s half white. They’re real sad.” “Sad, how come?” “They don’t belong anywhere. Page 215
In this scene Jem and Scout talk about Mr. Dolphus and his wedding with one of the spencer ladies but she finds out about his other colored woman and kills herself. Soon goes into a conversation about half white and half colored people.
I wonder why people wouldn't accept half white and half colored people. In the world right now being bilingual or trilingual is something to be proud of. Something that will help you show your personality.
The theme here is the damage done by racism. Just because being half white and half colored, the people in Maycomb give them nowhere to belong in. They can't go to a white church or a black church if you're both races.
“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.” P 209.
Atticus is explaining to Alexandra that Calpurnia is very important to the Finches and anything Alexandra can talk about with Atticus she can talk about with Cal.
Alexandra believes she is superior to Calpurnia, which she has shown time and time again throughout To Kill a Mockingbird. Race is not something that defines a person, besides their appearance. Atticus is effectively colorblind, treating everyone the same, no matter their race. Alexandra, is not. I was with a friend once in North Carolina at camp, and my friend was black. One of the kids we met there tried to befriend me, and ignore my friend based on his race. In the 21st century, a racist so hateful of blacks that he refused to speak to one. Alexandra is not as extreme in her racism, or as blunt, but it is still there.
The theme showed in this chapter is the damage done by racism. Alexandra is just an example of the many racists who live in Alabama, and the south as a whole. Different people, same principles and ideas. To Kill a Mockingbird is a book that perfectly demonstrates the attitude of a lot of southern whites up until the civil rights movement in the 1960s.
I like how you connected Alexandra being superior to Calpurnia to damage done by racism. The connection works with the theme. Your text to self connection is also very interesting. Great job and keep up the good work!
I think that Alexandra chooses to express her racist views in a different manner than many other characters in the book. She may not express her views publicly but it doesn't mean that she is not as racist as others more vocal on the subject. If I killed someone and hid the evidence, and you killed someone in public, it does not change the action that was done. Murder is still murder, as racism is still racism.
I agree with you, Rory. I also think this quote connects to the importance of home and family, since Cal plays a huge role in the Finch family and household.
“‘Mr. Cunningham’s basically a good man,’ he said, ‘he just has blind spots along with the rest of us.’” Page 210
In this scene, Atticus to explaining to Scout that Walter Cunningham’s still a man, but has his flaws, referring to the almost violent encounter at the jail.
What I find disturbing is that someone who is considered a good man could go to such extremes because of a hatred. I don’t agree with Atticus in this case because a person shouldn’t be considered “good” if he/she attempts to perform an act of violence based on his/her opinions on the African-American community. I lean more towards Jem’s thoughts when he says, “Don’t call that a blind spot. He’da killed you last night…” Page 210. This act was much more than just a blind spot. This was life-threatening to people, and even though Scout was able to prevent the mob of angry men from going any further into the jail, it’s the thought that counts, and that thought was to harm. In health class, we learned about how a person can see life through a different lense, but that original “camera” stands, just how a person’s view on life stands. Those thoughts or opinions never truly go away, but may be slightly altered. This concept relates to what happened in this scene. Jem may have changed “his lense,” but his “camera” remains.
The theme this scene can connect with is damage done by racism. Racism can cause people to do some pretty inhumane things, like what Walter Cunningham almost did. Racism has the power to change people, make them unrecognizable. Scout almost didn’t recognize Mr Cunningham; she first thought they were all strangers. Mr. Cunningham’s actions, in my opinion, overpower the good he has done in his life, which is an unfortunate thing that racism can cause.
“They don’t belong anywhere. Colored folks won’t have ‘em ‘cause they’re half white; white folks won’t have ‘em ‘cause they’re colored , so they’re just inbetweens, don’t belong anywhere. But Mr. Dolphus, now, they say he’s shipped two of his up north. They don’t mind ‘em up north.” Page 215
In this scene, Jem tries to explain to Scout what a mixed child is. This subject comes up when Jem, Scout, and Dill see a white man, Mr. Dolphus Raymond, sitting with blacks in the town square. Jem tells them how Mr. Dolphus has several half black and half white children with an African American woman.
In our world today, we still see racism based on skin color. Shockingly, there is even racism within one race, such as the Latino community. Even though Latinos are people of color, there is still discrimination and preferential treatment is given to those with lighter skin and more european traits. Many Latinos have intermarried with blacks and have interracial children. Similarly to the novel, interracial children still face challenges in finding their place within the community.
This article shares the traumatic experiences of multiple interracial Latinos and the discrimination issues they have faced. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/voices-rodner-figueroa-our-latino-racism-n323091
A theme that is portrayed in this scene is the damage done by racism. In the racist town of Maycomb, Alabama, mixed children are not accepted anywhere. Due to racism, the whites do not accept mixed people because they’re half back, and blacks don’t accept them because they’re half white. Mr. Dolphus’ children do not fit in anywhere and face discrimination in anything they do.
“A mob’s always made up of people, no matter what. Mr. Cunningham was part of that mob last night, but he was still a man.” Chapter 16 page 210
In this scene Atticus explains to the kids the behavior of the mob. I feel Atticus does this to decrease the kids fear, and at the same time educate them. Atticus is wise and kind and he always tries to understand the behavior of other people. Atticus desires his children to see the individual and not the mob.
This text connects to the world in that today we see one the news many examples of mobs. They seem very scary but, as Atticus points out each person is a person with their own story. By looking at the individual how and why that person is acting violently.
What I find disturbing is that Mr. Cunningham is a family friend of the Finch's, yet he was willing to possibly cause them harm. This is the problem with mobs. No one takes responsibility, everyone acts like a group. That is why mobs are often dangerous.
"Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That's what I don't like about it." page 218.
In this scene, Scout hears a group of men talking about Atticus defending Tom Robinson in the case. Since Tom Robinson is African-American, they feel that he isn't worth anything and that Atticus should not waste his time defending him.
I completely agree with the fact that Atticus is defending Tom Robinson. In his perspective, everyone should be treated equally, and that is what he is fulfilling. The fact that some people think that African-Americans or other races aren't considered equal to Caucasians, is a big problem that can relate to the book which took place in the 1930s!
Damage done by racism can represent the conflict that is going on, because of all the people that are going against his decision to defend Tom Robinson, just because he is African-American and because of that he is treated less.
I agree Guram. Not only was it thought that African-Americans shouldn't defend themselves, but even when they did, the odds were stacked against them: most races besides African- Americans weren't even allowed to be apart of the jury, which leaves all white males. These men already don't want to see an African-American take the stand, and so it's rare for the jury to decide in their favor.
I agree Guram. It is awful to think that most white people thought that Tom and the rest of the African Americans were worthless. He is one brave guy to do this and is a true role model trying to make it clear that all humans should be treated equally.
“‘So it took an eight-year-old child to bring ‘em to their senses, didn’t it?’” said Atticus. “‘That proves something-that a gang of wild animals can be stopped, simply because they’re still human. Hmp, maybe we need a police force of children…you children last night made Walter Cunningham stand in my shoes for a minute. That was enough.’” (Page 210)
In this scene, is saying that the gang of angry people who were after Tom Robinson could be stopped. Also, that it was sad that a child was the one to put them into their place and make them realize that what they are doing is wrong.
I feel that gang were able so see that Atticus is just trying to help someone in need. This experience made them be able to feel exactly how Atticus feels.
The theme that connects to the true definition of courage. This reveals that Atticus believes in his case and that he wishes for others to see it like him and also he wants people see the idea of that things are different from all perspective that sometimes people can be more powerful than you think, that people just have to be reminded of what they really are.
"'He despises Negroes, won't have one near him.'" page 209
In this scene, the entire Finch family is having breakfast including Dill, Calpurnia, and Aunt Alexandra. During the breakfast Atticus makes a particularly odd comment about a fellow named Braxton. When Calpurnia enters the kitchen, Alexandra scolds Atticus for the rude comment he made. Atticus responds, telling Alexandra that Calpurnia already knows, the whole town knows.
In this chapter, I find Atticus to be extremely rude to Calpurnia. I understand that Calpurnia already knows of this information, however, there was no reason for Atticus to make the comment when she was sitting right next to him. When someone mentions Atticus I automatically think of a respectful, well-mannered man; In this scene I do not. One time at dinner my family encountered a similar situation. My sister asked my parents if she could be excused to finish her homework. My parents told my sister that she could be excused. As my sister was washing her plate my brother blurted out, "Good thing you let her go. She needs to do her homework more often if she wants to do well in school." Although my brother's comment was correct, it was extremely inappropriate and shouldn't have been said.
The theme showed in this scene is damage done by racism. It is horrible to think that Atticus can share any comment he wants even if it is racist. Maycomb has become a town where it doesn't matter if you say a racist comment. Everyone already knows.
“What’s the matter?” I asked… He squatted down and took me by both shoulders. “I’ll tell him you said hey, little lady,” he said. Then he straightened up and waved a big paw.“Let’s clear out, he called. “Lets get going, boys.” Page 206
In this scene, Scout is very talkative towards Walter Cunningham who is unresponsive. She continues to talk and doesn’t understand why he will not answer her. After some moments of silence, Mr. Cunningham finally responds to Scout and directs the mob to leave.
I think that sometimes it takes one small incident to make a person rethink their irrational actions. In Scout’s case, she introduced a personal connection between herself, her family, and the Cunninghams. In my life, sometimes I want to go along with my group because I feel peer pressured, and I do things that I otherwise wouldn’t do alone. I don’t want to be alienated by the group, so sometimes I follow through with the group’s actions. However, usually before this point something or someone makes me realize that it is wrong. I try to put myself in the other person’s shoes and evaluate the situation, which Scout made Mr Cunningham do.
Themes that are exhibited in this scene are damage done by racism and importance of home and family. Atticus is protecting a black man, Tom Robinson, from being harassed by an angry mob. The mob consists of the Cunninghams who are both angry at Atticus for defending Tom and Tom for supposedly raping a white woman. Their racism against blacks blinds them to turn on a friend, Atticus. In this instance, racism temporarily clouds their judgement. The importance of home and family is shown when Scout unintentionally brings Mr. Cunningham back to his senses by talking about his relationship with Atticus. Without realizing it, Scout saves Atticus from harm.
I agree with the statement, " Their racism blinds them to turn on a friend, Atticus." If Scout was not there to take the "veil" off of Mr. Cunningham's eyes I feel like he may have gone through with what they were planning. He needed Scout to talk to him and make him realize that what he was doing was wrong.
“They don’t belong anywhere. Colored folks won’t have ‘em because they’re half white; white folks won’t have ‘em ‘cause they’re colored, so they just inbetweens, don’t belong anywhere” (bottom of page 215)
In this section, Jem was trying to explain to Scout what a mixed child was. They were in Courthouse Square when they saw a white man in there named Mr.Dolphus. He was sitting in the black section. Jem was trying to explain to Scout how he had many mixed ( half black half white) children with a black woman.
What I find disturbing is that just because the children are mixed no one wants them anywhere. Just because they are mixed with two different races doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t belong. If anything, since they are both races they should be welcomed by both communities. It even said that Mr Dolphus shipped two of his children up north because they don’t mind mixed children as much up there. In an article I read, it spoke about how mixed children are still finding it hard to find where they fit in the world. It also speaks about how racism makes that a lot harder for them. ( The link to the article will be down below) http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1019065
The theme that goes with the section is the damage done by racism. The people in Maycomb were so racist that they did not allow Mr. Dolphus’s mixed children to be accepted anywhere. Their mother was black and they were not accepted by the black community and their father was white and they were not accepted with the white community. There was no group for them because they were not fully one race.
“I don’t know of any law that says they can’t talk. Maybe if we didn’t give them so much to talk about they’d be quiet.Why don’t you drink your coffee, Scott.” page 210
This particular scene is an exchange between Atticus and Aunt Alexandra during breakfast. Aunt Alexandra strongly believes that certain topics should not be mentioned within earshot of the help. She believes that when the coloreds get together after work they talk about the white people and what goes on in their homes.
This situation shows the theme of the damage done by racism. Aunt Alexandra doesn’t even want to speak in front of Calpurnia. Atticus’s viewpoint is totally opposite of his sister’s. Atticus believes in speaking openly to all people.
"'I don't think it's a good habit, Atticus. It encourages them. You know how they talk among themselves. Everything that happens in this town's out to the Quarters before sundown.'" (Page 210)
In this scene Aunt Alexandra was arguing with Atticus on why he shouldn't speak openly about certain things in front of Calpurnia. Atticus stood up to her and reassured her that it's OK to talk about things in front of her.
What I find disturbing is how Aunt Alexandra refers to Calpurnia and other black people as "them". The tone I am getting from these lines shows how Aunt Alexandra agrees with how black people should be ostracized from society. Aside from races, in schools, it's common that different groups of different friends are labeled or clearly established. I've seen in some TV shows and movies how a group of friends may be eyeing another person or other people, and using the term "them" or "they" as they whisper in each other's ear. In both situations, referring to someone as "them" makes them feel like an outsider, like someone who doesn't belong. Especially in today's schools across the country, there have been many problems with self confidence due to situations like this.
This scene connects to the theme of the true definition of courage. Atticus has some conflicts because of the case. For example, his conflict between him and Aunt Alexandra (man vs. man) and his conflict between him and society (man vs. society). Atticus has a lot of courage to stand up to the people who say hateful things about him. He is also not arguing his side of the case just because he has to, but because he truly believes in Tom. It is evident that he is not racist nor discriminatory towards black people, or anyone for that matter. It is hard to do this sometimes especially when everyone else around you has the opposite opinion.
Chapter 16: “You know, it’s a funny thing about Braxton,” said Atticus. He despises Negroes, won’t have one near him.” (Chapter 16, Page 209)
In this scene Atticus explains how Braxton will not even have a negroe near him. The whole Finch family also including Aunt Alexandra, Dill, and Calpurnia. Aunt Alexandra is very mad with what he said. Atticus says that Calpurnia knows and so does the whole town.
I was very surprised by this comment by Atticus. I thought that Atticus was a very respectful man and I still think he is but this made me re-think a little bit on my thoughts on Atticus. Nothing good came out of this comment and he shouldn't have said anything. Atticus was very disrespectful and was also sitting right next to Calpurnia. One time my family was eating dinner and my dad announced that one of his best friends had lost his job. Everyone was very quiet and my sister out of nowhere said he probably didn't work hard enough. My Dad was very disappointed in my sister because his friend was a very hard worker and was not expecting this at all. I feel like both of these incidents are similar because they weren't a major problem, but they were harmful and didn't need to be said.
The theme created in this scene is the damage done by racism. Maycomb is a very racist town and the people who live their know and realize. It is horrible for Atticus saying that and it is even more disturbing that Braxton feels that way. Making a racist comment in Maycomb is not rare at all and is fine. Maycomb is a very segregated community and as Atticus said everyone already knows.
She waited until Calpurnia was in the kitchen, then she said, "Don't talk like that in front of them." "Talk like what in front of whom?" he asked. "Like that in front of Calpurnia. You said Braxton Underwood despises Negroes right in front of her." "Well, I'm sure Cal knows it. Everybody in Maycomb knows it." Pg. 209
In this scene, Atticus and Alexandria discuss the racist viewpoint of Mr. Underwood. Aunt Alexandra warns Atticus and says to watch what he says about Mr. Underwood’s attitude towards blacks in front of Calpurnia. Atticus states that Cal already knows what he thinks of her and the others of her race.
I’m not quite clear about Mr. Underwood. He is supporting Atticus and is all for a fair trial on the Tom Robinson case. He comes across as a man who believes in justice for all, regardless of their race. However, everyone knows he despises blacks and won’t go near one. Atticus knows that Mr. Underwood feels this way about blacks and doesn’t hesitate to share to the family. Aunt Alexandra wants him to watch his mouth about this topic, especially when Calpurnia is around. It is disappointing that blacks have to live everyday knowing that their race is so negatively perceived. Atticus pays no mind to his comments about blacks. He knows that these opinions are no surprise to Cal.
A theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. It’s upsetting enough that people choose to judge others and set negative stereotypes based on one’s skin color. During this historical period, it seems that blacks have to accept this negative perception and must remain mute when they hear such comments. Cal, who is considered a family member in the Finch household, is no exception. In addition, Mr. Underwood feels it is completely appropriate that he speaks this way in front of her and he fears no repercussions from his actions.
“You know, it’s a funny thing about Braxton,” said Atticus. He despises Negroes, won’t have one near him.” pge. 209
In this scene of chapter 16, Atticus is explaining to his family why Braxton Bragg won't let a negro near him. He was also talking to Aunt Alexandra and the others what happened to him last night.
I think Atticus is a better man because of what he's talking about in this scene. This is because Atticus is talking about how Braxton has let the whole town know how he's not letting negroes near him at all times. This shows how Braxton is a racist man and just judges others because of their race.
I think this scene represents the theme the damage done by racism. This is because people throughout Maycomb accused Tom Robinson of rape, and now others are accusing black or African-American men and women as “disgusting” or “filthy.”
"Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That's what I don't like about it" Page 218
In this scene, a group of white men are talking about Atticus is defending Tom Robinson. They don't understand why Atticus is defending him since obviously Tom's race doesn't matter.
Today, although there is still racism, people treat each other more equally. Back then white people were more superior than any other race. That's why these men thought that Atticus was crazy for defending Tom Robinson. His race didn't really matter. Besides Maycomb was a pretty racist community.
This scene represents the true definition of courage and the damage done by racism. Atticus is showing courage by defending Tom Robinson, no matter how many people criticizes him. These men are showing the damage done by racism judging Atticus for defending a nigger.
“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.” page 209. In this scene, Atticus is discussing at breakfast Braxton Underwood's known hatred of black people. Alexandra is worried that he shouldn't talk about such things in front of Calpurnia. This relates to Alexandra's idea of Calpurnia leaving in chapter 14. This represents the theme of importance of family because Atticus is 'color-blind'. He doesn't see race, just people so talking about Braxton Underwood in front of Calpurnia isn't a big deal to him.
ReplyDeleteI love the analogy of Atticus being colorblind. I agree with you. Atticus sees people as who they are, not what their skin tells them to be. I think this is an important piece of Atticus' personality.
DeleteI love the analogy of Atticus being colorblind. I agree with you. Atticus sees people as who they are, not what their skin tells them to be. I think this is an important piece of Atticus' personality.
DeleteThe way that Atticus sees Cal is sort of the way someone sees a step-parent that has always been in their life. Cal is an important part of Finch life, and I agree with Atticus in saying that she can hear anything that can be said at the table.
DeleteI agree with your idea of Atticus being "colorblind." Atticus is well aware of the racism in Maycomb. Even though he knew that he would lose respect for defending a black man, he did it anyway. Aunt Alexandra does not believe Calpurnia should be part of some conversations, but he intimately shuts her but saying she is family. I believe Jem and Scout will greatly benefit, and learn from the actions of the dad in the future.
DeleteI love how you refer to Atticus as "colorblind" because he does not see people for who they are on the outside. I also love how Atticus stands up for what he believes in and does not care what people think. I think it is so sweet how Atticus considers Calpurnia family!
DeleteAtticus trusts Calpurnia, relies on her for support raising his children, and considers her part of the family. In some ways she even takes the place of Scout and Jem's dead mother. Atticus just wants to make things clear for Aunt Alexandra. I like your idea of how Atticus sees Calpurnia. :)
DeleteI indeed like how you used the word "colorblind" to describe how Atticus sees people as who they are and does not judge them by their skin color. Calpurnia has done a lot for the Finch family and it wouldn't be the same without her.
DeleteI also like how you used the word "colorblind". It 100% relates to Atticus because he doesn't care what race you are as long as you are a good person with a heart.
DeleteMax, I really agree with you. No matter what anyone says to Atticus, nothing can change his mind when it comes to Calpurnia being a part of the family. I also agree with your analogy of Atticus being color blind because he does not look at people by the color of their skin, he looks at them through their hearts.
DeleteMax, I agree with you. I love how you used the word "colorblind" to indicate that Atticus sees people for who they are and not by the color of their skin.
DeleteI'm not being original here, but I had to mention how you used the word "colorblind" to symbolize his character. Great overall post. You always make a really good point.
DeleteI understand your opinion that Atticus is 'color blind' to race. I think he sees race but doesn't choose to let it influence his opinion of someone. It's not that he's oblivious to race, I feel it's more that it's irrelevant to him.
Delete“He despises negroes, won’t have one near him.”
ReplyDeleteAtticus explains this to Aunt Alexandra as they eat breakfast in this scene. They are talking about Braxton Bragg and explaining how he hates negroes even though the night before, he helped protect Atticus with his shotgun in case one of the men with Atticus hurt him.
Nowadays, I don’t think there are a lot of people like Mr. Underwood. Of course, Mr. Underwood isn’t the only character in the book which feels this way. Many people in Maycomb have the same attitude towards African Americans such as Aunt Alexandra who doesn’t respect them as people whatsoever. He, and others like him, don’t like negroes because of their skin color. This is the definition of racism. Today, I don’t think people that are aware of the culture and lifestyle we live in today believe in this form of discrimination. I think that most people, in particular young people, have learned to accept everybody no matter their skin color, religion, or background. Of course, there will always be some primitive people that still suggest elementary forms of bullying and discrimination based on race similar to Mr. Underwood’s.
This correlates with the theme that there is a lot of damage done to African Americans and other groups of people considered lesser by others. Obviously, African Americans and the other groups that have been discriminated (such as Catholics and Jews for example) have feelings, too. After this continuous abuse from other people, it begins to take a toll on one’s self esteem and way of thinking. People like Mr. Underwood, who refuse to even be near somebody solely because of their skin color make the people feel unwanted, which they are. That kind of constant hatred eventually can give a person all kinds of mental problems and will simply make them feel bad about themselves. (Pg. 209, Paragraph 2)
I disagree with you about there not being many people like Mr. Underwood. Racism is still at large today but, not so much in this community. In Paris there have been many anti-semitic conflicts where Jewish children were forced to stay home from school and be protected by members of the french military.
DeleteI agree with you, Abby. With all of the racism in the community it would begin to take a toll on many people. So this scene definitely has a lot to do with the damage done by racism.
DeleteI disagree with Abby. I believe there are still a lot of people who are racist and discriminating to certain races, religions and ethnicities. Especially in the case of younger people, I believe that they bully kids because of their race and make inappropriate jokes.
DeleteI agree with Izzy. Even though we are trying very hard to put an end to racism, it definitely still occurs today. Luckily, racism does not happen as much as it did during the historical period of the Great Depression, but there is still some discrimination towards others. I think that most of the time people make racist comments as a joke, but it can still be hurtful to the person being made fun of.
DeleteI also disagree with you Abby. Although there has been great attempts to end racism it continues to be a problem in our society today. However, I do agree with you in the sense that it was a much larger problem during the Great Depression.
DeleteI agree with you Abby. There will always be people who discriminate against another race. It still seems to be a major problem though around the world, as it was for the U.S. in the early to mid 1900s.
DeleteI disagree with you, Abby. Although, things have definitely gotten better since this time period. Racism, discrimination, and judgement are still a major problem around the world today but not as bad as it was in the early 1900's.
Delete“...But Atticus aims to defend him.”
ReplyDeleteThis is a line of a conversation Scout hears as she’s waiting for Jem and Dill to come find her in the courthouse after she gets separated from them in the crowds. The men are schooled on the workings of the court and are talking about Atticus. They are saying that it is a negative thing that Atticus is planning to actually make a valid argument to defend Tom Robinson.
Atticus is an ethical man who will always do the right thing. He decides to do his best to help Tom Robinson with a goal to at least get his side of the story known to the witnesses. I like to think that I would do the same thing, although, it seems unlikely that I would risk so much of my own life just for my job and to help one person I barely know. If I’m going to do something, I say do it well, however, I don’t think I’d risk my health for it. For example, Atticus is approached by a group of men that are against Atticus’ plan to help Tom Robinson. They are willing to hurt Atticus if he keeps helping. In addition, Atticus has been getting threats from all over town, and even comments from his own family that he is doing the wrong thing; making the wrong choice. Nevertheless, in his heart, Atticus knows he’s doing the right thing. I’m not sure I could give that much up.
Next, this shows how unfair the legal system can be in America. The fact that the men are upset that Atticus is actually going to try to defend an African American man shows that men before Atticus haven’t tried hard. It is quite dismal, in fact, that a lawyer could choose to send a man to the electric chair simply because he has a different color skin. Lawyers can try however much they wish to protect their client. If the lawyer doesn’t want to, they don’t need to make an amazing argument. In particular, this was more common in the time period in which this book takes place. This is so unfair to anybody who doesn’t have a hardworking lawyer. Therefore, it shows that a person’s success in the courtroom can be greatly influenced by the lawyer they are using. The lawyer they are using can be unfair, leading to lots of favoritism in the courtroom. (Pg. 218, Paragraph 6)
This is so true. It is amazing and terrible to think that less than a century ago, the people in our country were as racist and intolerable as they were in this chapter. Atticus is judged for a decision that most people would take today, and save a man that they think is innocent from getting killed, just because the majority of the community is racist.
DeleteI completely agree. Lawyers have a huge impact on the verdict of the trial and it is very courageous of Atticus to defend Tom Robinson despite what the community thinks.
Delete“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don’t like about it.” Page 218
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Scout overhears a group of men who are talking about the trial before it happens. They are not pleased about the fact that Atticus plans on trying to get Tom Robinson to go free.
This racist mentality of a town is disturbing. What is crazy to me is the fact that the people of the town are not only racist towards Tom and want to convict and kill him, they hate Atticus for trying to defend him too. He is only trying to do his job, and he should not be judged for doing it. This is something that is almost incomprehensible in todays world. I would defend Tom if I were in Atticus’s position. He almost does not see race. He does not care whether or not a person is black or white, he just sees if they are a good person or not. That may be one of the reasons why he is defending Tom, because he thinks that Tom is a better person than any of the Ewells. I know that I would defend Tom.
This quote connects to the theme of how racism affects people. Atticus was seen as a respected individual person in Maycomb before he decided to defend Tom. But his just decision to defend somebody who he thinks is innocent has changed how people in his town see him, and his life in general. Atticus is a great person who doesn’t see race as something that matters, and acts as such.
I completely agree with your main ideas. I hoped that Atticus would gain more respect for trying to defend a black man. Instead, he is criticized, and seen as a disgrace to some in Maycomb. Though Atticus is not loved by many, I hope he will positively impact some of the people of Maycomb through his actions.
DeleteI also agree with your main point. It is insane to me how a little peaceful town can be torn up because a white man is going to defend a black man in a case that he may not even committed.
DeleteI agree 100% how could people of Maycomb be upset with Atticus for doing his job and seeing the better in people. In my opinion people should admire Atticus for being so brave.
DeleteI agree with you completely. There is no reason for the people of Maycomb to hold a grudge against Atticus for doing his job and defending Tom Robinson, it is very disturbing. I agree with the idea that Atticus doesn't see a gap between the races as well.
DeleteI agree with all the previous comments and Kyle, the people of Maycomb shouldn't be mad at Atticus because he is defending Tom. He is doing the right thing and I wish that he would receive more support.
DeleteI strongly agree with you and Francesca because Atticus is doing his job and it is sad how extremely racist people can be and how some people feel like they can do anything they want and during this time era there probably wasn't much fairness in the court of law.
DeleteI disagree. Although today in our society, remarks like that are looked down upon, these townsmen have the right to the freedom of speech (#MERICA). Who cares what the townsmen say, as long as Atticus doesn't let it get under his skin he's fine.
DeleteMagnus, I respectfully disagree with your comment. Although those men do have the freedom of speech that does not justify their racism towards Tom and their cruelty towards Atticus. They should see Atticus as a good lawyer for defending his client to the best of his abilities.
DeleteMagnus, I see where you're coming from, but just because you're legally allowed to do something doesn't mean that you should. It must be difficult for Atticus not to let racist comments get to him, and with negative verbal remarks being ok, it would just be a gateway to further abuse.
Delete“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.” Page 209.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus explains to Aunt Alexandra that Calpurnia is part of the family, and is able to be a part of any conversation no matter the topic. By having Calpurnia be part of these conversations, she is able to help the kids understand the mistakes that were made in situations, why it happened, and the lessons to be learned from it.
I strongly agree with what Atticus says to Calpurnia. In my home, my parents are not afraid of having certain adult conversation around me. They know that valuable lessons can be taught through the situations which may help me in adulthood. In my opinion, this style of parenting benefits me in many ways. I now have a better knowledge on how to handle common problems I might face, and avoid possible issues that can escalate in the future.
The theme that connects to this scene is the importance of home and family. Atticus family is so important to him. By running it the way his does creates an honest and open environment for everyone. When it gets to the point where family members tell stories behind each others back, it can create larger problems. Calpurnia takes on the mother role for Jem and Scout. When she is not aware of the amount of knowledge they have on a topic, she is not able to judge how much information to give them.
I completely agree with you. In this sense Calpurnia is a vessel to let Jem and Scout understand what is going on in their town but in their own home. I also agree that when parents have adult conversation with us, we learn more about facing problems we might run into. It’s a way we learn how to deal with a event that needs to be handled. In this case it make the kids understand how to help themselves, rather always going to the parent for help.
DeleteI agree with you too. There have been a few 'arguments' between Atticus and Alexandra about Calpurnia and her place in the Finch's home. She has been with them so long it would be silly if she wasn't considered a member of the Finch family
DeleteI agree with you, Javen. Calpurnia is such a huge person in the lives of Scout and Jem. And this scene really has a lot to do with the importance of family. I think that that was a very good text-to-self connection because all of us here can relate to this scene.
DeleteI agree with you Javen. Calpurnia is a mother figure to Jem and Scout and she is practically a member of the Finch Family. Families are supposed to be open with each other and they are, which Alexandra disagrees with. Cal has taught the children so many valuable lessons and other things that couldn't have been taught if these stories weren't being shared with one another.
DeleteI agree with you Javen. Calpurnia has acted as a mother to Scout and Finch and does have a right to know what is going on despite what Aunt Alexandria says. Calpurnia has been with the Finches through so much that Aunt Alexandria needs to realize she is a part of the family.
DeleteI agree with you as well. Calpurnia has been there for Jem and Scout and is like a mother to them. I also believe its important to not keep anything from each other and rather be open about current situations.
Delete“ But around here once you have a drop of Negro blood, that makes you all black”. Middle of page 216
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Jem, Dill and Scout are in front of the courthouse, waiting for the trail to start. While in the square, Scout then asks about half black people in the town. Jem explains to Scout that you just have to know who they are. But, also tells her that if you have a drop of black blood in you, in the town you’re black. They are not accepted into society at all. African americans accepted each other, but in this case no one accepts them. White people dont accept them because they’re part black, and African Americans don’t accept them because they’re part white. They live in a harsh, cruel society.
In contrast to today's standards, there are none. Everyone is accepted for who they are, whether they are black, white or Asian. That time period was known for being tyrannical and unfair. But in this case, no one accepts them. They are in between societies who aren’t accepted them at all for what they are. While now diversity has spread its wings and made an impact over our culture. If not for the spread of culture you could say goodbye to Italian food, Japanese food, Chinese food and many others. Accepting people as what they are is the new way of the 21st century.
In this quote it shares the damage done by racism. Since they were half white and half black the stood out in two societies. They stood out in the black society and the white society. Since they are black, white people don’t accept them. Since they are white, Black people didn’t accept them. The damage done from racism had marked the town most indefinitely. So many opinions had racist remarks to them setting African Americans more trusting in themselves than anyone else.
I agree with you, Sarah. That time period was defiantly Tyrannical, there was no equal justice, and it was unfair. Also I am very happy that we do not live in an environment like that today, because today, it would be a lot worse.
DeleteI completely agree with you Sarah. It must have been incredibly hard for those kids during the time period. They where not excepted by anyone and it was because of something that was out of their control; they can't change who they are.
DeleteI completely agree! Though it's quite strong of statement, it's completely true, at least for that time period. Being part Black posed a big problem for some who were unsure what to chose when it came to facilities that segregated by race, for example, segregated fountains, churches, doors etc.
Delete“Well how do you know we ain't Negroes?"
ReplyDelete"Uncle Jack Finch says we really don't know. He says as far as he can trace back the Finches we ain't, but for all he knows we mighta come straight out of Ethiopia durin' the Old Testament.""
"Well if we came out durin' the Old Testament it's too long ago to matter."
"That's what I thought," said Jem, "but around here once you have a drop of Negro blood, that makes you all black." Page 216.
In this scene Jem, Dill and Scout notice a small boy holding a Negro woman’s hand and they didn’t know how you could tell if the boy was black or not, Then Scout asks how do they know if they are negroes.
To me, this isn’t right at all, you shouldn’t be called Negro if you have one drop of it in your blood, what about the gallons of white blood. Also how can blood be classified as black or white, it does not make sense. They should not have to worry if they are black or white, just look at your skin, there you go.
This part of the scene has to do with the theme of the damage done by racism. Scout should not have to worry about whether they are black or white, because they have a loving father who obviously treats blacks just as well as whites so it wouldn’t matter to him. On the other hand Aunt Alexandra would freak out if you were black, and talking with their family, which should not be the case, but not everyone can love you.
I like the way you are describing your thoughts. If you are half white and half black you will be sad because you do not have any specific race?. They do not belong anywhere. Jem, Dill and Scout say that maybe because they are surrounded by people who act in a mean way when referring to white or black person like Lula with exception of Atticus and Calpurnia.
Delete“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don’t like about it.” Chapter 16, page 218
ReplyDeleteThis is a quote from a portion of a conversation between a few “White shirted, khaki trousers, suspendered old men.” Scout is walking and eavesdrops in on the conversation that these men are having about her father and the case he is defending. Atticus is defending the Tom Robinson case.
What I found disturbing was that Tom Robinson is being accused of rape partially because of his race. Tom Robinson is a black man and in the 1930’s there was an extreme amount of discrimination against race’s that were not white. Atticus is a lawyer and is defending Tom Robinson. The residents of maycomb that are mainly white are upset about the fact that a white man is defending a black man who is an accused criminal. Atticus is attempting to do his job and looks past the fact that he is black and looks at the real facts, the evidence. In todays world, there have been incidents where lawyers have received threats or been vandalized for defending people that have been accused of a serious crime. I was watching T.V about a year ago and saw something which I cannot remember if it was fiction of non fiction. A lawyer had left his office and planned to go home and found his car destroyed and vandalized because he was defending a case others did not had a biased opinion about. This is similar to things people are saying about Atticus and his position in the Tom Robinson case.
The theme that this connects to most is, Is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? This shows that there truly is not because Tom is being accused of an extreme crime mainly because of his race. That disturbs me a tremendous amount because the united states government says that one is innocent until proven guilty but, most people assume he is guilty because of his race. The people of Maycomb think he is guilty and the jury most likely will have a biased opinion because of his race too. This proves that in this particular case, there is not justice for all under the united states law.
I agree with you. It seems like in Maycomb the punishment for a crime is based on the color of the people. No matter if Tom was innocent or guilty he will still go to the chair just because of his color. It may also has to do with tom being accused by white people.
DeleteI agree with you, Francesca. It appears that in Maycomb county, race plays a huge role in how one is treated under the law. It is so unfair that Tom was accused of rape when there is hardly any evidence to suggest that this really happened. The jury of this particular court seems to be extremely biased and therefore, they shouldn't be allowed to determine the final outcome of the case.
DeleteI agree with you Francesca. Within Maycomb county a large part of the law system is determined by your race. This of course leads to many unfair trials like in the case of Tom Robinson. I also strongly agree that the jugement of people due to their race is disturbing.
DeleteI agree, Francesca. Clearly Maycomb is an extremely racist town that just assumes Tom is guilty because of his race. Also, how is Tom being judged by a jury of his peers if all of the jurors are white.
DeleteI’m completely agree with. I feel that Tom Robinson is been accused of a crime based on his race and, I think that during this historical period in 30s there were segregation on people, and most of Maycomb people assume he’s guilty just because colored of his skin.
Delete“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.”
ReplyDelete“I don’t think it’s a good habit, Atticus.It encourages them.You know how they talk among themselves. Everything that happens in this town’s out of the Quarters before sundown.” “... Why don’t you drink your coffee, Scout?”
In these scene, Aunt Alexandra tells Atticus not to make comments like the one he just made about Mr. Underwood in front of Calpurnia or any other African-American.Atticus responds by saying that it is nothing Cal doesn’t already know, and that anything can be said in front of Calpurnia’s ears. Calpurnia is a family member for the Finch family.
I strongly agree with Atticus. Aunt Alexandra just keep being kind of mean and tries to make Calpurnia less than her. She treats Calpurnia strictly as a black servant beneath her level in life. Atticus has been clear about Calpurnia and does not want Alexandra treating her different.
The theme that connects with with this scene is the importance of home and family. Again Atticus is defending Calpurnia from Aunt Alexandra and this time not only Cal but all the Black people in Maycomb, including Tom Robison. Atticus wants Aunt Alexandra to treat Cal like a family member and to says things just the way they are in front of Calpurnia’s ears. Atticus treats people equally no matter what their color is or if they have money.
I agree. I feel that it would maybe make Calpurnia feel more like family if the Finch's talk about everything in front of her. I loved this scene because it showed just how much of a family member Calpurnia truly is.
DeleteYeimi, I think that Alexandra is actually so mean with Cal, this is not the first time that she offends Calpurnia. Aunt Alexandra is definitely racist and I agree when Atticus defends Calpurnia from his sister.
DeleteI agree with the fact that Aunt Alexandra thinks less of Calpurnia and that she can be racist. However, I don't think that Aunt Alexandra is telling Atticus not to say that Braxton Bragg hates black people because she is being mean. I think she just thought it may be offensive to Calpurnia when he said this. I also think it really does show how Calpurnia is part of the family when he says he can say anything in front of her.
DeleteI definitely agree with you. This was one of my favorite scenes because not only does it show that Calpurnia is part of the Finch family, but Atticus is also standing up to Aunt Alexandra. I like how Atticus believes that he can discuss anything with Calpurnia. It shows that he trusts her and once again, that she is part of the family.
Delete“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don't like about it.” Page 218.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Scout is listening to the conversation of a group of men. They are discussing the trial and how they don't like the idea of Atticus defending Tom Robinson. They do not like that Atticus is fighting for a black man, when the race of Tom Robinson should not matter at all.
If I was placed in the shoes of Atticus I would defend Tom Robinson. Even though Maycomb is such a racist community, I feel that based on who I am, I would defend him. When you become a lawyer you are supposed to fight for everyone equally. So there is no way that I would not fight for Tom Robinson. I believe that everyone should be treated equally no matter what race or ethnicity you are. That’s why it is such a tough job for Atticus. Morally, Atticus feels that he must defend Tom Robinson, but with so much racism in Maycomb, it will be difficult to win. So if I was in Atticus’s shoes I would defend him despite how people would see me.
This scene connects to the theme of the damage done by racism and the true definition of courage. It connects with the damage done by racism because Atticus is now seen differently because he is defending Tom Robinson. So now the whole Finch family is seen differently and looked down upon because Atticus is defending a black man. It has to do with the true definition of courage because even though there is so much hate against what Atticus is doing, he still is going to do his job. Atticus is being very courageous and despite what people think about him, he will never back down from defending Tom.
I would defend Tom Robinson too. Lawyers should defend everyone no matter their race and everyone should be treated equally on trial. However, I do understand why people aren't defending Tom. In such a racist town like Maycomb, it's hard to be as brave as Atticus is being.
DeleteI totally agree and believe people should be treated equally no matter there or race. Atticus is a dry courageous man and I believe this case with Tom Robinson will make a difference in their community towards colored people if Tom Robinson is found innocent.
Delete“‘Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.’
ReplyDelete‘I don’t think it’s a good habit, Atticus. It encourages them. You know how they talk among themselves. Everything that happens in this town’s out to the Quarters before sundown.’
My father put down his knife. ‘I don’t know of any law that says they can’t talk. Maybe if we didn’t give them so much to talk about they’d be quiet. Why don’t you drink your coffee, Scout?’” Chapter 16 Pages 209-210
In this portion of the book, Atticus was describing how Mr. Underwood despises blacks, and Aunt Alexandra suggests to Atticus that he not talk like that while Calpurnia is present. Atticus responds by saying that Cal is nearly family, and that anything that is worthy of being said at the table can be said to her face. Aunt Alexandra replies to Atticus that it is a bad habit, and that all the African Americans do is talk. She believes that word spreads to the outskirts of town in no time if they are to know something. Atticus says to her that they have a right to talk especially because whites are often times the ones that give them things to talk about. It is clear that Alexandra and Atticus have very different views on certain subjects, this case being one of them.
When I was younger, my aunt would separate the younger children from the adults into 2 tables at holiday dinners. She thought that we were too young to enjoy or understand conversations that the adults may have. However, as I got older, the two tables began to integrate into one table, and I began to grasp the more complex ideas and I was able to converse on a more mature level. By working with the Finches for so many years, Cal has become one of the family and they talk around her no differently than they do with each other. This is similar to my experience because over time as I grew older, I became a part of adult conversation.
This section of the story relates to the themes of the damage done by racism and the importance of home and family. Aunt Alexandra has a prejudice against African Americans. She holds blacks responsible for the rapid spread of word throughout the area. She thinks that Cal is just their servant and she doesn’t understand or agree with Atticus’ decision to have her work for them. Calpurnia, although not related by blood, is a member of the Finch Family, and it is hard for Alexandra to accept this.
I totally agree with you. Just because Calpurnia is African-American doesn't mean she shouldn't be treated any less than a mature adult. Aunt Alexandra just doesn't understand this.
Delete“He Just has blind spots like the rest of us.” Page 210, Chapter 16
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem how Mr. Cunningham is his friend he just has his moments like everyone. Jem is confused because Mr. Cunningham came at Atticus with a knife. Atticus says to Jem that people sometimes forget who they are when they are in a mob. Jem does not seem to understand but, Atticus says he will as he gets older.
I strongly disagree with what Atticus is trying to say to Jem about Mr. Cunningham. He says that Mr. Cunningham is mostly a good man, this does not make any sense. You can not say someone is mostly your friend or mostly a good man if they come at you with a knife with the intent to hurt you, it does not matter if it is in a mob or not that is unacceptable. Sometimes friends get into fights but they never try to actually harm each other. Mr. Cunningham and Atticus disagree about the trial but, the fact that Mr. Cunningham tried to harm Atticus shows he is not a mostly good man but a bad man. Whenever my friends and I disagree on something we do not try and stab each other we try to talk it out, or we just don’t talk until it blows over. We never try to hurt each other. I wonder why Atticus is being so calm about Mr. Cunningham trying to hurt him, If I were in his place I would be furious. If Mr. Cunningham was a true friend he would respect Atticus’s decision and not try to harm him.
This quote connects to the true definition of courage. Atticus is going against what his friends and the people in his town think. It has come to the point where one of his “friends” tried to hurt him. Atticus is putting himself at risk for something he believes is right, we see this to be a major topic throughout the book. From Lulu kicking Scout and Jem out if the Church to Scout dressing the way she wants despite what Mrs. Dubose told her, a major theme of this book is doing what you believe is right and not giving into societies pressures. Atticus is facing a danger that a lot of us fear; not fitting into society but, he is sticking to his guns.
I actually agree with Atticus, because Mr. Cunningham was just going along with the group. He is friends with Atticus, but the group of men wanted to harm Atticus on account of him helping Tom Robinson, not any personal reasons.
DeleteThis is a very conflicting topic. I agree with both of you but at the same time, I don't 100% see your point of view. Although Mr. Cunningham was trying to harm Atticus, it was only orders from his leader. At the same time, Atticus doesn't believe in Mr. Cunningham's group's beliefs. Mr. Cunningham joined that group with intent of hurting/ scaring people either supporting African- Americans, or someone who is African- American.
DeleteTeddy, what leader are you referring to? If Walter Cunningham was really a good man, he wouldn't go through with attempting to do harm based on racist opinions. If the group was peer pressuring him to do so, then he lacks true courage that would've been needed to leave the group, but I don't think this was the case. Therefore, I agree with Max. One who uses violence to solve disputes should not be considered a good man.
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ReplyDelete“Well how do you know we ain’t Negroes?”
“… That’s what I thought,” said Jem, “but around here once you have a drop of Negro blood, that makes you all black.” pg. 216
In this scene, while Jem, Scout and Dill are outside of the courthouse waiting for the trial, they talk about this type of racism in the town. Jem explains to Scout why neither white people or African Americans accept half black people at all.
During the Great Depression, colored people where discriminated in the United States, mostly in the south. The kids are facing this period where things were so difficult for African Americans. Today, it doesn’t matter at all where you born or which is your race, everyone has the same rights and the ability of interact with different races. However, the racism stills in some people, but fortunately there are few of them.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Having a mixture of races, make a big damage. For example in the scene I mentioned before, black people have to seat in the balcony of the courthouse to see the trial while withes are seating on the bank. Also, people who has drop of Negro blood are being discriminated by both cultures.
"You know, it's a funny thing about Braxton," said Atticus. "He despises Negroes, won't have one near him." Page 209.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is talking to Aunt Alexandra at the breakfast table about Braxton Bragg. Braxton Bragg had covered Atticus the night before with a shotgun, when a mob came to the Maycomb jail to harm Tom Robinson. Atticus finds it weird that Braxton helped him because he hates African Americans yet he protected Tom and him.
I find Mr. Underwood a very interesting character. In the book, it says it’s known by the whole town that he hates black people however, he defends Tom’s right to a fair trial. Mr. Underwood believes in justice for everyone, despite his feelings towards black people. There aren’t many people like Mr. Underwood in this story however, I believe most people today are like him. A lot of people today discriminate against different races and make inappropriate jokes, but yet I believe that most people believe in equal rights.
This quote relates to the theme of the damage done by racism. Mr. Underwood wouldn’t even go near a black person soulfully because of their skin color. Many people in Maycomb county felt the same way. The discrimination that African Americans faced during times like the Great Depression made them feel lowly and it greatly impacted their self esteem. To think that someone wouldn’t come near me just because of something I can’t even control is awful.
I completely agree that Mr. Underwood is a very interesting character that has his beliefs about black people but in a way has his morals, such as you stated justice and equality. I also agree with the fact that discrimination was terrible in Maycomb.
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ReplyDelete“Always does. He likes ‘em better’n he likes us, I reckon…” page 214
In this scene, Jem is informing Scout about Mr. Dolphus Raymond. Scout wonders why Mr. Dolphus is sitting with the black people before the trial rather than the white people. Jem tells her that this is because he likes the black people better. He is married to a colored woman and has a few children. His children are mixed races and Jem says that nobody wants anything to do with people who are both races.
What I find disturbing in this book is that everyone is judged based on the color of their skin. In Fact, during this historical period there was a lot of segregation and racism that occurred. A man who reminds me of Mr. Dolphus, and a few other characters in To Kill a Mockingbird, is Martin Luther King. Martin Luther King was a black man who sought equality for all African American people. He fought for equality by peacefully protesting with other black men and women. Both Martin Luther King and Mr. Dolphus Raymond believe that all races are equal and should have the same rights, which is why I believe they are similar.
The theme that connects to this scene is the true definition of courage. Mr. Dolphus is making a courageous choice by becoming close with the black people in his town. Maycomb is a very racist and segregated community, so a lot a people will not agree with Mr. Dolphus’ actions. In their mind the blacks are supposed to be separate from the whites. This is why it surprised me when he was sitting with the blacks before Tom Robinson’s trial. Also, Mr. Dolphus Raymond married a colored woman, so it is obvious that he does not care what others think of him from what I have read so far.
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What I find weird is that the people of Maycomb are judging a white man for sitting with "colored folks", even though he prefers them over white folks. He obviously doesn't care about skin color, because he has a black wife and children. What confuses me is why he is tolerant, while the rest of the people in Maycomb are so judgmental.
Delete“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don't like about it.”
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In this scene, scout was separated from Jem and Dill and she was waiting for Jem to come for her eventually. While she was waiting, she heard a group of white shirted. They were talking about the trial and arguing about her father, Atticus. They were upset about Atticus defending Tom Robinson, in the trial I don’t think race would matter and it should be equal to everyone.
I agree with what Atticus is trying to do. Atticus does’t matter either Tom Robinson is white or black. He defend Tom Robinson because it is his job and he thinks equally. If I was Atticus, I would do the same thing what Atticus have done. There are many racist people in Maycomb and they might hate and harm you, but I would still defend Tom Robinson and be fair because that is the right choice to do.
This scene relate to the theme of the damage done by racism. Just because of Tom Robinson’s race, he shouldn't be treated as a criminal before they even find out if he is innocent or not. In my opinion, I think that the trial and the punishment in Maycomb is depend on the race of people andI think it doesn’t matter who you are, but what does really matter is what ever you do.
I completely agree! At that day and age, supporting someone who was African American and convicted of rape is quite a difficult case to defend. This also shows the theme of courage in terms of Atticus's actions.
DeleteI agree with Atticus when he is trying to defend Tom because we don't have to look at race when it comes to helping others.
DeleteI agree with you as well and find Atticus to be very courageous because although many people don't want him defending Tom Robinson because of his race, Atticus is looking past that and is treating him equally.
DeleteI agree with you in that all of this seems so extreme due to the racism in our country during the 1930s. In this modern era, many of us think that we would make the same decision as Atticus, but consider what he put at risk in choosing to defend Tom Robinson. Would you put your life and your family's life in danger, and risk most of the town looking at you in disgust to defend a black man whose conviction was virtually guaranteed?
Delete“Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That’s what I don’t like about it.” page 218
ReplyDeleteThis is a quote from a scene of a conversation between a few men, when Scout is walking and hears in on the conversation that these men are having about her father and how Atticus is defending the Tom Robinson case.
What I thought was disturbing was that Tom Robinson is being accused of rape partially because of his race. Tom Robinson is a black man and in the 1930’s-1950’s there was an extreme amount of discrimination against race’s that were not white. The people of maycomb that are mainly white are upset about the fact that a white man is defending a black man who is accused crime. Atticus is trying to do his job and looks past the fact that he is black and looks at the real facts and the evidence. In todays society, there have been many incidents where lawyers have received threats or have been vandalized for defending people that have been accused of a serious crime or did not like who they were defending.
The theme that this connects to most is, Is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? This case in the story shows that there truly is not because Tom is being accused of a crime mainly because of his race. That bothers me a lot because the U.S. government says that you are “innocent until proven guilty” but, most people in Maycomb county assume he is guilty and that he committed the crime because of his race and because the victim of the alleged “rape” is white. The judge and jury will most likely have a biased decision because of his race too. This proves that in this particular case, there is not justice for all under the united states law.
I agree, almost everyone in the town already believes that Tom did the crime. There is not even really any evidence against him yet but being black was reason enough to send him to jail for a crime that he may not have committed.
DeleteOn PG# 209, Atticus states, “Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.”
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is confronted by Aunt Alexandra over is loud speech about topics concerning Calpurnia and other African Americans in the community. The quote is his response. He states that anything fit for the table, as in the type of conversations spoken at dinner which are respectful and sometimes important. Then Atticus mentions, “She know what she means,” an interesting response which took me a bit to fully understand.
The major theme taken from this quote is the importance of home, family and trust. Atticus has great respect for Calpurnia, and respects their differences, this enacts a type of mother role for Calpurnia. Atticus also speaks about important matters while well aware that Calpurnia is listening, this shows a clear level of trust.
“Well how do you know we ain’t Negroes?”
ReplyDelete“Uncle Jack Finch says we really don’t know. He says as far as he can trace back the Finches we ain’t, but for all he knows we mighta come straight out of Ethiopia durin’ the Old Testament.”
“Well if we came out durin’ the Old Testament it’s too long ago to matter.”
“That’s what I thought,” said Jem, “but around here once you have a drop of Negro blood, that makes you all black. Hey look-” page 216
During this chapter, Jem is talking to Scout about how one drop of Negro blood automatically makes you black. Scout wondered if the Finches could be black and how could you really tell if someone is black or white or both based on their looks. They discussed the children who were both black and white and Jem pointed some out. He told Scout that black people don’t want them, because they’re half white and vice versa. These kids are kind of stuck in the middle with nowhere to go and no one who really wants them.
In 1960, a young girl named Ruby Bridges was one of the first African American students to attend an all white elementary school. Parents wanted nothing to do with her, just like the biracial children of Maycomb. They took their children out of school or brought them to other schools, because they didn’t want Ruby near them. People were very closed minded about her joining an all white school. Ruby had to be protected everywhere she went and wasn’t allowed to leave the classroom without an escort, for fear of people trying to hurt her. A main point in this chapter is the damage done by racism, because one race doesn’t want anything to do with another and Ruby Bridges and the biracial children of Maycomb are a perfect example of that.
Another point is that change can be very frightening, and some people do not know how to handle this fear. Sometimes it takes time to get used to a new situation and embrace the positive aspects.
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ReplyDelete"He might have hurt me a little,” Atticus conceded, “but son, you’ll understand folks a little better when you’re older. A mob’s always made up of people, no matter what. Mr. Cunningham was part of a mob last night, but he was still a man. " Pg: 210 L:16
ReplyDeleteSo it took an eight-year-old child to bring ‘em to their senses, didn’t it?” Said Atticus. “That proves something-that a gang of wild animals can be stopped, simply because they’re still human”
I totally agree, to show that someone is wrong is not required to be of age and have an extensive knowledge only need to know is right. And have the courage to face a group of people with the same thought, punish Tom Robinson.
The themes that connect to this scene are the meaning of courage , explains how even bad people, you can still have a bit of good heart in them. In this quote Scouts said Mr. Cunningham in the group of men from the mafia, and talked with him as an adult, repeatedly mentioned his son, and his family, so this would have resulted in him, he is a father, and he is a part of a family that has good thoughts that reminds you of reality, as if the gangsters went to jail and either injure or kill Tom Robinson, who would have a negative emotional impact on them. After Mr. Cunningham spoke to the crowd then stepped back. This shows that from scout pointed to this man, it is shown that when a group of men are in a crowd, allowing them to hide behind each other, and forget reality, while only goal for the target principal, which would either hurt or kill Tom Robinson. In the end, what he did was scout a very brave act, and the bonds of trading on very well because nicely demonstrates that there is always a little heart to someone, and when they are reminded that they are doing something very wrong, you can get the reverse, like what happened during the talk with Mr. Cunningham Scouts.
I like your quote and I agree, because Jem made the men realize that hurting someone is obviously wrong. Like you said, the men not harming Atticus showed that they did have a heart, that they did care.
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DeleteAtticus claims that every man has a heart, but in our world today we observe so many terrible things happening from bombings to terrorist attacks. If these people truly have a heart, what does it take for us to get through to them?
Delete“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.” Page 209.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus is explaining to Aunt Alexandria that Cal is welcome to hear anything discussed at their dinner table. She is just as much part of the family as any of the rest of them are.
I strongly agree with Atticus standing up to his sister and telling her that Cal is an important part of the family. Throught the story Atticus has been a very thoughtful character and always very deliberate in his actions. Additionally, when it comes to Cal being a part of the family he also feels very strongly. This reminds me of a good friend of mine who was being raised by a single parent as well. In her family she had a nanny and that nanny helped to raise her and was a crucial member of her childhood. this is very similar to Cal’s situation because both are treated as members of the family. I feel that a family is not only made of blood, but the people that you bring into your life are also your family.
this relates to the theme of the importance of home and family. Cal has been such an important member of their family that it would be criminal to treat her otherwise. Atticus is a firm believer in not keeping things from one another. Thus creating a very accepting home environment which is a very important part of Jem and Scout’s childhoods.
ReplyDelete“Half white, half colored. You’ve seen ‘em, Scout. You know that red-kinky-headed one that delivers for the drugstore. He’s half white. They’re real sad.” Page 215.
In this scene, Jem is talking to Scout about the Raymond kids and how it is sad that they are half black and half white because they don’t belong anywhere.
Nowadays, people (especially in Fox Lane) have very diverse friend groups and support groups. In most all friendships race doesn’t play much of a role, if any at all. In contrast to today, back then whites couldn’t be friends with blacks and vice-versa. Also, if you were half and half, you were neglected by both groups. Jem thinks it is sad because the Raymond children are oppressed by both groups.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. When kids are born, they don’t get to choose their race, it can’t be changed, it isn’t like somebodies personality. So people shouldn’t be judged because of their race. Back in Maycomb during the Great Depression, races stuck together, and so the poor kids that were biracial had nobody but themselves. The Raymond kids were probably very nice, fun loving kids, but they wouldn’t get the chance to show it just because of their race.
“How can you tell?” asked Dill. “He looked up to me.”
ReplyDelete“You can’t sometimes, not unless you know who they are. But he’s half Raymond, all right.”
“But how can you tell?” I asked.
“I told you, Scout, you just hafta know who they are.”
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In this scene Jem is telling Scout and Dill of Mr. Dolphus, a white man, who married a black women and had mixed children; half white and half colored. Jem explains to them that they are in a bad position because the white folks won't accept them because they’re half colored and colored folks won't accept them because they're half white.
I feel sorry for the Mr. Dolphus’ kids who have to experience not being able to fit into a community because they are half white and half colored. The fact that two of Mr. Dolphus’ children had to be sent up north because they weren’t accepted at home is a terrible thing. In the quote above Dill and Scout ask Jem how they can tell the kids apart from regular black children and he responds saying, you just have to know. As Mr. Dolphus’ kid walks by Scout realizes he looks no different than any other black kid. This reveals that although he is colored, because of who his father is he is treated differently.
This relates to the theme of the damage done by racism. The damage done by racism is represented in this chapter by the unwelcoming of Mr. Dolphus’ kids in the white community and in the black community. The segregation has made Maycomb a town where people aren’t given the opportunity to express themselves and be who they want.
I agree, it's really sad that just because the children are mixed that they are not welcomed by either group. The fact the one of the Dolphus children look no different than any other black child and is still not accepted into any group is horrible.
DeleteAtticus: “That proves something- that a gang of animals can be stopped, simply because they’re still human.” Page 210
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is justifying Mr. Cunninghams reasons for trying to harm him the previous night. He claims that he wouldn't have killed him, because every gang member is a human. According to Atticus, as long as someone is human they will be reluctant to take another’s life.
This scene relates to modern times, simply because there are still gangs alive in America. One of the most notorious gangs ever in the U.S. was the mafia. They originated selling alcohol when it was outlawed in the 20s but it escalated into a murderous and violent group that started in NYC. If you look closely the two scenes are very similar. One gang hates a certain race of people, so they go after the man representing one in a court case. One gang sells alcohol illegally, so they would go after the people who would, 1) try to arrest them, or 2) buy the liquor and never pay. Unfortunately, these groups still live on today.
This situations relates to the true meaning of courage. Although Atticus may not hunt animals with a gun, he is brave enough to stand up to a very dangerous gang. He claims they can be stopped, which is very bold to say. I think that his children are finally starting to see that Atticus is actually very brave, he isn’t afraid to confront the man who just attempted to stab him. With this mentally, I think Jem and Scout will start to notice his bravery more.
Teddy, I agree with you completely. Atticus is a great example to Scout and Jem because he encounters difficult situations and makes mistakes, yet he handles those situations with grace and he figures out a way to get his children to learn from his, and their, mistakes, just like how Atticus chooses not to fight with violence. Well said, Teddy.
Delete"Lemme tell you something' now, Billy," a third said, "you know the court appointed him to defend this nigger."
ReplyDelete"Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That's what I don't like about it."Ch.16 page 218
In this scene Scout overhears a few men talking about his father, Atticus and criticizing him for defending an African American man named Tom Robinson. Tom Robinson was convicted of raping a girl because of the color of his skin. People were disturbed that a white man was defending a black man. I find this disturbing that people are willing to convict a man of raping a girl because of his race. This case would change Tom's life forever, he would be known as an African American rapist. Imagine being convicted of something because of the color of your skin and being locked up for something you didn't do.
The themes that connect to this scene are, is there really justice for all under the law in the United States and the true definition of courage. Atticus is courageous because he is white and he is defending an African American man, who was convicted of raping a girl because of his race.
Rendy, I love your insight on this. People need to realize that all people are people, no matter what color their skin is. They also need to think about their actions. One accusation can ruin a man's life.
Delete“You goin’ to court this morning?” asked Jem. We had strolled over.
ReplyDelete“I am not,” she said. “I have no business with the court this morning.”
“Aren’t you goin’ down to watch?” asked Dill.
“I am not. ’t’s morbid, watching a poor devil on trial for his life. Look at all those folks, it’s like a Roman carnival.” p. 213
In this scene, Jem and Dill ask Miss Maudie whether she will be attending the court. Miss Maudie chooses not to go because she believes that it’ll be like a Roman carnival.
A Roman carnival consisted of people gathering to watch the slaughtering of an animal. Miss Maudie used a simile to explain that the court case of Tom Robinson would not go well. She believed that Atticus would not win, and Tom would get wrecked in the courthouse because of all the racism in the air.
The theme relating to this scene is the damage done by racism. The reason why I chose this theme is because the fact that Miss Maudie, a reasonable, kind woman, has no faith whatsoever in Atticus or Tom shows that the segregation and racism in their town in that time period is way too extreme. Miss Maudie did not even need to hesitate before assuming that Atticus and Tom would have no chance at trial victory.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2932.html
This article discusses the Dred Scott v.s. Sanford court case. This court case was about a slave, Dred Scott, that wanted to be free, but could not be free because he was an African American. This article relates to the theme, damage done by racism, because it shows a man that cannot be free because of the color of his skin. I believe that that is unacceptable.
I was once going to go to a sports game with my friend, and we were planning to go for months. We were very excited, and all of a sudden, she did not want to go because she knew the team she was rooting for had scarce chance of winning because their best player could not play in the game. This is quite similar to the scene of Miss Maudie, Dill, and Jem.
It’s very surprising and upsetting to me that people’s faith in others can be affected by racism.
" They don't belong anywhere . Colored folks won't have'em 'cause they're white ; white folks won't have'em cause they're colored . ... Don't belong anywhere. Pg 215
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Jem is explaining to Scout on why Dolphus Raymond's kids are not excepted to either races.
I know how it feels to not be not accepted by either group. For years it's been hard for me to have friends that are " American" because I was Latina ; and have hispanic friends because they didn't like that I was also American . It feels like they don't like me for me but where I was born and where my parents originated from .
In this scene the main theme was the effect of racism . People in the Maycomb community cannot set aside the color of someones skin or what their parents are . The kids of Dolphus have to discriminated only by their skin color . Not because of what they do or act in life ( Even though it's not right to do that either).
Great point Emily. It is sad that today some people can't look beyond color or race. The kids of Dolphus had a great deal of trouble not be excepted by either race. I like how you said it doesn't matter how they act or what they do. Sadly this was true in some areas back then.
DeleteYou know that red-kinky- headed one that delivers for the drugstore. He’s half white. They’re real sad.”
ReplyDelete“Sad, how come?”
“They don’t belong anywhere. Page 215
In this scene Jem and Scout talk about Mr. Dolphus and his wedding with one of the spencer ladies but she finds out about his other colored woman and kills herself. Soon goes into a conversation about half white and half colored people.
I wonder why people wouldn't accept half white and half colored people. In the world right now being bilingual or trilingual is something to be proud of. Something that will help you show your personality.
The theme here is the damage done by racism. Just because being half white and half colored, the people in Maycomb give them nowhere to belong in. They can't go to a white church or a black church if you're both races.
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ReplyDelete“Anything fit to say at the table’s fit to say in front of Calpurnia. She knows what she means to this family.” P 209.
ReplyDeleteAtticus is explaining to Alexandra that Calpurnia is very important to the Finches and anything Alexandra can talk about with Atticus she can talk about with Cal.
Alexandra believes she is superior to Calpurnia, which she has shown time and time again throughout To Kill a Mockingbird. Race is not something that defines a person, besides their appearance. Atticus is effectively colorblind, treating everyone the same, no matter their race. Alexandra, is not. I was with a friend once in North Carolina at camp, and my friend was black. One of the kids we met there tried to befriend me, and ignore my friend based on his race. In the 21st century, a racist so hateful of blacks that he refused to speak to one. Alexandra is not as extreme in her racism, or as blunt, but it is still there.
The theme showed in this chapter is the damage done by racism. Alexandra is just an example of the many racists who live in Alabama, and the south as a whole. Different people, same principles and ideas. To Kill a Mockingbird is a book that perfectly demonstrates the attitude of a lot of southern whites up until the civil rights movement in the 1960s.
I like how you connected Alexandra being superior to Calpurnia to damage done by racism. The connection works with the theme. Your text to self connection is also very interesting. Great job and keep up the good work!
DeleteI think that Alexandra chooses to express her racist views in a different manner than many other characters in the book. She may not express her views publicly but it doesn't mean that she is not as racist as others more vocal on the subject. If I killed someone and hid the evidence, and you killed someone in public, it does not change the action that was done. Murder is still murder, as racism is still racism.
DeleteI agree with you, Rory. I also think this quote connects to the importance of home and family, since Cal plays a huge role in the Finch family and household.
Delete“‘Mr. Cunningham’s basically a good man,’ he said, ‘he just has blind spots along with the rest of us.’” Page 210
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus to explaining to Scout that Walter Cunningham’s still a man, but has his flaws, referring to the almost violent encounter at the jail.
What I find disturbing is that someone who is considered a good man could go to such extremes because of a hatred. I don’t agree with Atticus in this case because a person shouldn’t be considered “good” if he/she attempts to perform an act of violence based on his/her opinions on the African-American community. I lean more towards Jem’s thoughts when he says, “Don’t call that a blind spot. He’da killed you last night…” Page 210. This act was much more than just a blind spot. This was life-threatening to people, and even though Scout was able to prevent the mob of angry men from going any further into the jail, it’s the thought that counts, and that thought was to harm. In health class, we learned about how a person can see life through a different lense, but that original “camera” stands, just how a person’s view on life stands. Those thoughts or opinions never truly go away, but may be slightly altered. This concept relates to what happened in this scene. Jem may have changed “his lense,” but his “camera” remains.
The theme this scene can connect with is damage done by racism. Racism can cause people to do some pretty inhumane things, like what Walter Cunningham almost did. Racism has the power to change people, make them unrecognizable. Scout almost didn’t recognize Mr Cunningham; she first thought they were all strangers. Mr. Cunningham’s actions, in my opinion, overpower the good he has done in his life, which is an unfortunate thing that racism can cause.
“They don’t belong anywhere. Colored folks won’t have ‘em ‘cause they’re half white; white folks won’t have ‘em ‘cause they’re colored , so they’re just inbetweens, don’t belong anywhere. But Mr. Dolphus, now, they say he’s shipped two of his up north. They don’t mind ‘em up north.” Page 215
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Jem tries to explain to Scout what a mixed child is. This subject comes up when Jem, Scout, and Dill see a white man, Mr. Dolphus Raymond, sitting with blacks in the town square. Jem tells them how Mr. Dolphus has several half black and half white children with an African American woman.
In our world today, we still see racism based on skin color. Shockingly, there is even racism within one race, such as the Latino community. Even though Latinos are people of color, there is still discrimination and preferential treatment is given to those with lighter skin and more european traits. Many Latinos have intermarried with blacks and have interracial children. Similarly to the novel, interracial children still face challenges in finding their place within the community.
This article shares the traumatic experiences of multiple interracial Latinos and the discrimination issues they have faced.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/voices-rodner-figueroa-our-latino-racism-n323091
A theme that is portrayed in this scene is the damage done by racism. In the racist town of Maycomb, Alabama, mixed children are not accepted anywhere. Due to racism, the whites do not accept mixed people because they’re half back, and blacks don’t accept them because they’re half white. Mr. Dolphus’ children do not fit in anywhere and face discrimination in anything they do.
“A mob’s always made up of people, no matter what. Mr. Cunningham was part of that mob last night, but he was still a man.” Chapter 16 page 210
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus explains to the kids the behavior of the mob. I feel Atticus does this to decrease the kids fear, and at the same time educate them. Atticus is wise and kind and he always tries to understand the behavior of other people. Atticus desires his children to see the individual and not the mob.
This text connects to the world in that today we see one the news many examples of mobs. They seem very scary but, as Atticus points out each person is a person with their own story. By looking at the individual how and why that person is acting violently.
What I find disturbing is that Mr. Cunningham is a family friend of the Finch's, yet he was willing to possibly cause them harm. This is the problem with mobs. No one takes responsibility, everyone acts like a group. That is why mobs are often dangerous.
"Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That's what I don't like about it." page 218.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Scout hears a group of men talking about Atticus defending Tom Robinson in the case. Since Tom Robinson is African-American, they feel that he isn't worth anything and that Atticus should not waste his time defending him.
I completely agree with the fact that Atticus is defending Tom Robinson. In his perspective, everyone should be treated equally, and that is what he is fulfilling. The fact that some people think that African-Americans or other races aren't considered equal to Caucasians, is a big problem that can relate to the book which took place in the 1930s!
Damage done by racism can represent the conflict that is going on, because of all the people that are going against his decision to defend Tom Robinson, just because he is African-American and because of that he is treated less.
I agree Guram. Not only was it thought that African-Americans shouldn't defend themselves, but even when they did, the odds were stacked against them: most races besides African- Americans weren't even allowed to be apart of the jury, which leaves all white males. These men already don't want to see an African-American take the stand, and so it's rare for the jury to decide in their favor.
DeleteI agree Guram. It is awful to think that most white people thought that Tom and the rest of the African Americans were worthless. He is one brave guy to do this and is a true role model trying to make it clear that all humans should be treated equally.
ReplyDelete“‘So it took an eight-year-old child to bring ‘em to their senses, didn’t it?’” said Atticus. “‘That proves something-that a gang of wild animals can be stopped, simply because they’re still human. Hmp, maybe we need a police force of children…you children last night made Walter Cunningham stand in my shoes for a minute. That was enough.’” (Page 210)
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, is saying that the gang of angry people who were after Tom Robinson could be stopped. Also, that it was sad that a child was the one to put them into their place and make them realize that what they are doing is wrong.
I feel that gang were able so see that Atticus is just trying to help someone in need. This experience made them be able to feel exactly how Atticus feels.
The theme that connects to the true definition of courage. This reveals that Atticus believes in his case and that he wishes for others to see it like him and also he wants people see the idea of that things are different from all perspective that sometimes people can be more powerful than you think, that people just have to be reminded of what they really are.
"'He despises Negroes, won't have one near him.'" page 209
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, the entire Finch family is having breakfast including Dill, Calpurnia, and Aunt Alexandra. During the breakfast Atticus makes a particularly odd comment about a fellow named Braxton. When Calpurnia enters the kitchen, Alexandra scolds Atticus for the rude comment he made. Atticus responds, telling Alexandra that Calpurnia already knows, the whole town knows.
In this chapter, I find Atticus to be extremely rude to Calpurnia. I understand that Calpurnia already knows of this information, however, there was no reason for Atticus to make the comment when she was sitting right next to him. When someone mentions Atticus I automatically think of a respectful, well-mannered man; In this scene I do not. One time at dinner my family encountered a similar situation. My sister asked my parents if she could be excused to finish her homework. My parents told my sister that she could be excused. As my sister was washing her plate my brother blurted out, "Good thing you let her go. She needs to do her homework more often if she wants to do well in school." Although my brother's comment was correct, it was extremely inappropriate and shouldn't have been said.
The theme showed in this scene is damage done by racism. It is horrible to think that Atticus can share any comment he wants even if it is racist. Maycomb has become a town where it doesn't matter if you say a racist comment. Everyone already knows.
“What’s the matter?” I asked… He squatted down and took me by both shoulders.
ReplyDelete“I’ll tell him you said hey, little lady,” he said.
Then he straightened up and waved a big paw.“Let’s clear out, he called. “Lets get going, boys.” Page 206
In this scene, Scout is very talkative towards Walter Cunningham who is unresponsive. She continues to talk and doesn’t understand why he will not answer her. After some moments of silence, Mr. Cunningham finally responds to Scout and directs the mob to leave.
I think that sometimes it takes one small incident to make a person rethink their irrational actions. In Scout’s case, she introduced a personal connection between herself, her family, and the Cunninghams. In my life, sometimes I want to go along with my group because I feel peer pressured, and I do things that I otherwise wouldn’t do alone. I don’t want to be alienated by the group, so sometimes I follow through with the group’s actions. However, usually before this point something or someone makes me realize that it is wrong. I try to put myself in the other person’s shoes and evaluate the situation, which Scout made Mr Cunningham do.
Themes that are exhibited in this scene are damage done by racism and importance of home and family. Atticus is protecting a black man, Tom Robinson, from being harassed by an angry mob. The mob consists of the Cunninghams who are both angry at Atticus for defending Tom and Tom for supposedly raping a white woman. Their racism against blacks blinds them to turn on a friend, Atticus. In this instance, racism temporarily clouds their judgement. The importance of home and family is shown when Scout unintentionally brings Mr. Cunningham back to his senses by talking about his relationship with Atticus. Without realizing it, Scout saves Atticus from harm.
I agree with the statement, " Their racism blinds them to turn on a friend, Atticus." If Scout was not there to take the "veil" off of Mr. Cunningham's eyes I feel like he may have gone through with what they were planning. He needed Scout to talk to him and make him realize that what he was doing was wrong.
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ReplyDelete“They don’t belong anywhere. Colored folks won’t have ‘em because they’re half white; white folks won’t have ‘em ‘cause they’re colored, so they just inbetweens, don’t belong anywhere”
(bottom of page 215)
In this section, Jem was trying to explain to Scout what a mixed child was. They were in Courthouse Square when they saw a white man in there named Mr.Dolphus. He was sitting in the black section. Jem was trying to explain to Scout how he had many mixed ( half black half white) children with a black woman.
What I find disturbing is that just because the children are mixed no one wants them anywhere. Just because they are mixed with two different races doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t belong. If anything, since they are both races they should be welcomed by both communities. It even said that Mr Dolphus shipped two of his children up north because they don’t mind mixed children as much up there. In an article I read, it spoke about how mixed children are still finding it hard to find where they fit in the world. It also speaks about how racism makes that a lot harder for them. ( The link to the article will be down below)
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1019065
The theme that goes with the section is the damage done by racism. The people in Maycomb were so racist that they did not allow Mr. Dolphus’s mixed children to be accepted anywhere. Their mother was black and they were not accepted by the black community and their father was white and they were not accepted with the white community. There was no group for them because they were not fully one race.
“I don’t know of any law that says they can’t talk. Maybe if we didn’t give them so much to talk about they’d be quiet.Why don’t you drink your coffee, Scott.” page 210
ReplyDeleteThis particular scene is an exchange between Atticus and Aunt Alexandra during breakfast. Aunt Alexandra strongly believes that certain topics should not be mentioned within earshot of the help. She believes that when the coloreds get together after work they talk about the white people and what goes on in their homes.
This situation shows the theme of the damage done by racism. Aunt Alexandra doesn’t even want to speak in front of Calpurnia. Atticus’s viewpoint is totally opposite of his sister’s. Atticus believes in speaking openly to all people.
"'I don't think it's a good habit, Atticus. It encourages them. You know how they talk among themselves. Everything that happens in this town's out to the Quarters before sundown.'" (Page 210)
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Aunt Alexandra was arguing with Atticus on why he shouldn't speak openly about certain things in front of Calpurnia. Atticus stood up to her and reassured her that it's OK to talk about things in front of her.
What I find disturbing is how Aunt Alexandra refers to Calpurnia and other black people as "them". The tone I am getting from these lines shows how Aunt Alexandra agrees with how black people should be ostracized from society. Aside from races, in schools, it's common that different groups of different friends are labeled or clearly established. I've seen in some TV shows and movies how a group of friends may be eyeing another person or other people, and using the term "them" or "they" as they whisper in each other's ear. In both situations, referring to someone as "them" makes them feel like an outsider, like someone who doesn't belong. Especially in today's schools across the country, there have been many problems with self confidence due to situations like this.
This scene connects to the theme of the true definition of courage. Atticus has some conflicts because of the case. For example, his conflict between him and Aunt Alexandra (man vs. man) and his conflict between him and society (man vs. society). Atticus has a lot of courage to stand up to the people who say hateful things about him. He is also not arguing his side of the case just because he has to, but because he truly believes in Tom. It is evident that he is not racist nor discriminatory towards black people, or anyone for that matter. It is hard to do this sometimes especially when everyone else around you has the opposite opinion.
Chapter 16: “You know, it’s a funny thing about Braxton,” said Atticus. He despises Negroes, won’t have one near him.” (Chapter 16, Page 209)
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus explains how Braxton will not even have a negroe near him. The whole Finch family also including Aunt Alexandra, Dill, and Calpurnia. Aunt Alexandra is very mad with what he said. Atticus says that Calpurnia knows and so does the whole town.
I was very surprised by this comment by Atticus. I thought that Atticus was a very respectful man and I still think he is but this made me re-think a little bit on my thoughts on Atticus. Nothing good came out of this comment and he shouldn't have said anything. Atticus was very disrespectful and was also sitting right next to Calpurnia. One time my family was eating dinner and my dad announced that one of his best friends had lost his job. Everyone was very quiet and my sister out of nowhere said he probably didn't work hard enough. My Dad was very disappointed in my sister because his friend was a very hard worker and was not expecting this at all. I feel like both of these incidents are similar because they weren't a major problem, but they were harmful and didn't need to be said.
The theme created in this scene is the damage done by racism. Maycomb is a very racist town and the people who live their know and realize. It is horrible for Atticus saying that and it is even more disturbing that Braxton feels that way. Making a racist comment in Maycomb is not rare at all and is fine. Maycomb is a very segregated community and as Atticus said everyone already knows.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/3/racial-segregationamericansuburbs.html
She waited until Calpurnia was in the kitchen, then she said, "Don't talk like that in front of them."
ReplyDelete"Talk like what in front of whom?" he asked.
"Like that in front of Calpurnia. You said Braxton Underwood despises Negroes right in front of her."
"Well, I'm sure Cal knows it. Everybody in Maycomb knows it." Pg. 209
In this scene, Atticus and Alexandria discuss the racist viewpoint of Mr. Underwood. Aunt Alexandra warns Atticus and says to watch what he says about Mr. Underwood’s attitude towards blacks in front of Calpurnia. Atticus states that Cal already knows what he thinks of her and the others of her race.
I’m not quite clear about Mr. Underwood. He is supporting Atticus and is all for a fair trial on the Tom Robinson case. He comes across as a man who believes in justice for all, regardless of their race. However, everyone knows he despises blacks and won’t go near one. Atticus knows that Mr. Underwood feels this way about blacks and doesn’t hesitate to share to the family. Aunt Alexandra wants him to watch his mouth about this topic, especially when Calpurnia is around. It is disappointing that blacks have to live everyday knowing that their race is so negatively perceived. Atticus pays no mind to his comments about blacks. He knows that these opinions are no surprise to Cal.
A theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. It’s upsetting enough that people choose to judge others and set negative stereotypes based on one’s skin color. During this historical period, it seems that blacks have to accept this negative perception and must remain mute when they hear such comments. Cal, who is considered a family member in the Finch household, is no exception. In addition, Mr. Underwood feels it is completely appropriate that he speaks this way in front of her and he fears no repercussions from his actions.
ReplyDelete“You know, it’s a funny thing about Braxton,” said Atticus. He despises Negroes, won’t have one near him.” pge. 209
In this scene of chapter 16, Atticus is explaining to his family why Braxton Bragg won't let a negro near him. He was also talking to Aunt Alexandra and the others what happened to him last night.
I think Atticus is a better man because of what he's talking about in this scene. This is because Atticus is talking about how Braxton has let the whole town know how he's not letting negroes near him at all times. This shows how Braxton is a racist man and just judges others because of their race.
I think this scene represents the theme the damage done by racism. This is because people throughout Maycomb accused Tom Robinson of rape, and now others are accusing black or African-American men and women as “disgusting” or “filthy.”
"Yeah, but Atticus aims to defend him. That's what I don't like about it" Page 218
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, a group of white men are talking about Atticus is defending Tom Robinson. They don't understand why Atticus is defending him since obviously Tom's race doesn't matter.
Today, although there is still racism, people treat each other more equally. Back then white people were more superior than any other race. That's why these men thought that Atticus was crazy for defending Tom Robinson. His race didn't really matter. Besides Maycomb was a pretty racist community.
This scene represents the true definition of courage and the damage done by racism. Atticus is showing courage by defending Tom Robinson, no matter how many people criticizes him. These men are showing the damage done by racism judging Atticus for defending a nigger.