“If you had been on that jury, son, and eleven other boys like you, Tom would be a free man,” said Atticus. “So far nothing in your life has interfered with your reasoning process…” Page 295
In this scene, Jem is very upset because the jury convicted Tom of raping and beating Mayella when the evidence clearly did not support it. In the excerpt, Atticus tries to explain to Jem that nothing has interfered with the way he sees the evidence, which is why he believes in Tom’s innocence. Atticus explains that the people in the jury are generally reasonable people, but their prejudice gets in the way of their judgement.
Children’s minds are very open to influence by adults in their community. Atticus teaches his children not to be racist, so they do not understand why other people are. Examples of this are shown in the world today. For example, children are susceptible to being brainwashed or influenced. Today, a terrorist group in the Middle East, Isis, is recruiting children and teenagers to join their forces. They know that they can train them to believe that their beliefs are correct. A fourteen year old boy in Baghdad was targeted at a mosque and Isis members convinced him to kill Shiites.After a while, he realized that what he was doing was wrong, so he turned himself in. He was lucky but many are not.
This article is about the boy in Baghdad, Iraq who was convinced to join Isis. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/27/world/middleeast/syria-isis-recruits-teenagers-as-suicide-bombers.html?_r=0
Themes that relate to this scene are how important home and family is to a child, the harm done by racism, and unfair justice for all under the law in the United States. A child’s home life and family greatly influence who they grow up to be. The values that are instilled in them and their beliefs are taught from a young age. During the 1930s, many people were racist against African Americans and they passed this on to their children. If you are taught a racist view, then you tend to carry those views into adulthood. This racist view was even present in the jury. This made trials unfair because the jury was didn’t exercise good judgement. Therefore, there was not justice for all under the law in the United States due to prejudice.
I realized in this chapter especially that Jem is not so naive anymore. He is beginning to see racism through his own eyes and he understands it more than when he was younger. When Jem was younger I don't think that he could really see any racism for himself, he needed to grow up a little more to be able to experience it.
I like how you related Jem to children today in the Middle East. Obviously, Jem is not becoming a terrorist any time soon but he can just as easily be taught right from wrong and what the world around him believes. It is important that children learn early how to go through life without causing trouble.
“Jem, see if you can stand in Bob Ewell’s shoes a minute. I destroyed his last shred of credibility at that trial, if he had any to begin with. The man had to have some kind of comeback, his kind always does. So if spitting in my face and threatening me saved Mayella Ewell one extra beating, that’s something I’ll gladly take. He had to take it out on somebody and I’d rather it be me than that houseful of children out there. You understand?” In this scene, Atticus explains to Jem that Bob Ewell may threaten Atticus but he won't actually do anything about it. This quote relates to the theme of walking in someone else's shoes. Jem is scared that Atticus will get hurt and Atticus has him think what it would be like if his name got disgraced in front of the entire town when you had barely any reason for people to trust you in the first place.
I like this blog post Max. I believe that this scene also resembles the theme of importance of home and family, because Atticus is being a responsible role-model for his children.
Max, all of your blogs are always very convincing. I like the quote you use. It really shows the theme of the importance of home and family. Atticus would gladly save a child's life than his own.
I think that maybe Atticus is selflessly that he can feel compassion even for ob Ewell. Atticus is so generous because he knows he is so much better off the Ewells will ever be.
“There’s always the possibility, no matter how improbable, that he’s innocent.”
In this scene, Atticus discusses the flaws that he sees in the American justice system with Jem and Scout with Aunt Alexandra quietly listening in. He says in order to prove somebody guilty, one must have irrefutable evidence showing that it is utterly impossible for the accused to be innocent. He says that if there is a possibility for the accused to be innocent, they should not be convicted because they still may be innocent.
When I was little, I remember times where a teacher or parent thought I did something wrong when, in fact, somebody else had made the mistake. For example, especially in school, teacher sometimes think kids are talking, but they are actually behaving. This connects to the book because Tom Robinson was convicted based on circumstantial evidence. Truthfully, Tom is innocent, but he seemed guilty based on the witnesses and his daily life including walking by the Ewells’ house. He was not given the benefit of the doubt and is punished for no reason. I agree with Atticus because I think that one must be absolutely certain to punish somebody in case that somebody is actually innocent.
This proves that the American legal system is not always fair. Even Atticus says that sometimes it favors specific groups of people like white men. Sometimes, innocent people are sent to jail (or worse) for crimes they did not commit. This is one of the cruelest forms of torture because of the severity of the injustice. If the evidence is inconclusive, it is inexorably unfair to send one man to jail and let one go, without knowing for sure if either is guilty. It doesn’t matter if the man is probably guilty, like Tom Robinson with all the evidence stacked against him. It only matters that there’s a chance he’s innocent. It is inexcusable to send an innocent man to jail. (Pg. 294, Paragraph 6)
I agree with you Abby, I can definitely relate to what you said about teachers believing you where doing something wrong when really it was someone else. But, on a more serious not I also agree with what you said about Tom being convicted on circumstantial evidence. However I disagree with you about what you said in regard to his daily walk by the house. I think that this makes him look more innocent because he could have gone in any day by force and raped and beaten Mayella Ewell but, he only went into the residence when asked to help with something. I believe that this is something that could help prove Tom's innocence, not revoke it.
“...you sho’ can’t choose your family, an’ they’re still kin to you no matter whether you acknowledge ‘em or not, and it makes you look right silly when you don’t.
Jem recites this to Aunt Alexandra after hearing Atticus say it. Aunt Alexandra was explaining that if Walter Cunningham was a part of their family, she wouldn’t let him inside the house because he’s a different kind of person.
I’m not crazy about my family sometimes. All my cousins are boys, so I never really got along with them because they were always playing football and other things that I didn’t want to play. This is similar in some ways to Scout’s situation regarding family. She doesn’t get along with her cousin, Francis, or Aunt Alexandra. She is learning to accept them, though, and to be kind to them no matter how they treat her. This is something that everybody with a family needs to learn. You can’t pick your family, so you need to learn to cope with them.
This scene also shows the importance of family. Families need to learn to accept each other because families are always better off when they stick together. If somebody gets in trouble, it is the friends and family of the person that helps get them out of it. In addition, you can’t avoid family because you will always have mutual family members in common which will bring you together. For this reason, it’s always a bad idea to ignore family because it will be very awkward when you see each other again. Atticus and Jem say, “you look right silly when you don’t.” They mean that being close to your family can’t hurt you and will only hurt your best connections to people in this world. No matter who your family is, it is always important to be close, or at least tolerant of them so that you have close, helpful people that will support you if you need it. (Pg. 300, Paragraph 8)
“ According to Miss Stephanie Crawford, however, Atticus was leaving the post office when Mr. Bob Ewell approached him, cursed him, spat on him, and threatened to kill him...Miss Stephanie said he didn’t bat an eye, just took out his handkerchief and wiped his face and stood there and let Mr. Ewell call him names wild horses could not bring her to repeat.” Middle of page 291
In this scene Miss. Stephanie Crawford is explaining what Mr. Ewell did to Atticus in the post office. She Explained to the kids ( Jem, Scout and Dill) that Mr. Ewell spit in his face, cursed him, called him names, and threatened to kill him. But, Atticus just stood there taking all Bob Ewells heat and anger that was thrust upon Atticus. While this scene unfolded Atticus didn’t say anything and remained calm.
If I was in Atticus’ position, I would have either reacted rationally like Atticus. I would have been calm if I thought about how reacting about the situation. Or I would have gone crazy and become mad and try to defend myself. But, if I reacted badly my position would be damaged because I didn’t stand my ground. That would show that at these type of problems I can not handle them rationally.
This quote connects to the theme of the true definition of courage. While Mr. Ewell spits on, calls Atticus names, and threatened Atticus, Atticus stayed perfectly calm. He let Mr. Ewell fire our all his rage. Atticus was courageous because he didn’t fight back. He simply took the tyrannical comments and went along with his day. If he had acted badly that is, it could have scarred his reputation and his position. The faith of those who wanted Tom to be unguilty would be worried, while Mr. Ewell would be overjoyed at his obvious win.
After defending Tom, if Atticus had fought Bob Ewell then his reputation would be gone. Many people would no longer see him as a respectable man. If I were him, I would have done the exact same thing, because it takes true courage to stand up to a man you were once against, a man who could hurt you if he really wanted to.
“As you grow older, you’ll see white men cheat black men every day of your life, but let me tell you something and don’t you forget it--whenever a white man does that to a black man, no matter who he is, how rich he is, or how fine a family he comes from, that white man is trash.” page 295
In this scene, Atticus explains to his children, Jem and Scout, how white men tend to take advantage of black men. This sickens Atticus because he believes in equality. He thinks that everyone should respect all others, regardless of their race. Atticus wants to ensure that Jem and Scout know how to treat others in their society.
People in our world today are still bullied because of their race or ethnicity. At my dance school, there is a group called Harmony Nation. We go to other schools and talk about how it is important not to bully others because of their race or the way they look and act. In To Kill a Mockingbird, Atticus consistently informs his children that everybody is equal. He explains how a black man is not less than a white man, everybody is the same and deserves a chance in society.
The themes that are most represented in this scene are is there really justice for all under the United States law and the damage done by racism. Atticus is not surprised that he did not win the case because his defendant, Tom Robinson is a colored man. The citizens of Maycomb county new that Tom did not have a chance at winning in court because during this time period, a white man always won over a black man. This is unfair because Tom had evidence that supports him, showing that he did not rape Mayella Ewell. Atticus believes that the jury, of all white men, cheated Tom Robinson. Tom should have won the case and according to Atticus, any white man who cheats a black man is trash.
I agree with you about what you said about Atticus teaching his kids to treat people equally. It was very important for parents to teach their kids this because it ultimately led to the end of segregation. People act out what they are taught so if everyone is taught to treat others equally no matter who they are there would be no more race issues. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction."- Ronald Reagan. This quote is relevant to what I am trying to say because it shows that a major change can happen in one generation. This holds true with segregation and racism. If everyone teaches their kids to treat others equal like Atticus does, segregation and racism would be gone.
“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” pg. 295
In this scene, Atticus is explaining to Jem how the law works in Maycomb. People couldn’t be fair and it makes humans lose their heads. Atticus gives to Jem a good lesson about whites because the older he grows, the more of racism he will see.
I agree with Atticus lesson because the racism stills but fortunately not that bad. When I came to the United States I could see how people look at me. It was not everyone but I notice how some of them don’t even want to talk to me. Also, in the stores my family and I have been discriminated for our color and accent. Not only whites do this because I can tell you that most of the racist people are the same hispanics.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Even though Tom was not guilty, jurors decided to judge him because a white man’s word has more validity than black men’s word. Usually Atticus is a voice of hope for change, but here he flatly says that racism is a "fact of life," suggesting that losing Tom's case severely dented his optimism concerning human nature.
I agree with you very much Maria. It's a sad thing to see an innocent man be announced guilty for a crime he did not commit and all because of his race. I can strongly feel your connection to racism as well. I get the same feeling sometimes.
I agree with you also. I find it unfair that Tom is accused of rape when there is no evidence that he committed the crime. From the beginning of the trial, it was obvious that he would lose because of his skin color, which is very upsetting to me.
"There's something in our world that makes men lose their heads—they couldn't be fair if they tried. In our courts, when it's a white man's word against a black man's, the white man always wins. They're ugly, but those are the facts of life. "The one place where a man ought to get a square deal is in a courtroom, be he any color of the rainbow, but people have a way of carrying their resentments right into a jury box." page 295
In this scene, Atticus is saying that there's just something about race that makes white people crazy.His holding up Jem as an exception because of his youth suggests that whatever that factor is, it's learned and not innate and it can be changed through education.
I think that law isn't a pure realm free of the prejudices that plague everyday life and usually Atticus is a voice of hope for change.
The theme that connects to the damage done by racism. Atticus is trying to defend Tom but every else in the court is against him, they think that Tom really commit the crime, even worse he will judge in based on the color of his skin.
"I know, and lots of 'em probably deserved it, too but in the absence of eye-witnesses there's always a doubt, sometimes only the shadow of a doubt. The law says 'reasonable doubt,' but I think a defendant's entitled to the shadow of a doubt. There's always the possibility, no matter how improbable, that he's innocent." P: 294 L:22
Jem was asking his father about the trial, he was curious to know who chooses the jury and why the people in maycomb can't choose them. Jem felt very sad to learn that the judge declare Tom guilty even though they didn't had enough evidence against him. What surprised more to Scout during talks with his father was that a woman cannot be part of a jury.
During this period of time people were only judged by the deductions that the jury had, or what they believed, they dont demand evidence and that was the biggest reason why people guilty or innocent were judged equally, when a clean and a clear evidence was needed to convict a person. Some occasion they convict people to death just because they thought that they were guilty.
Is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? During the great depression justice was not the same for everyone even if they are native to the United States as what happened at the trial any black was treated like a white, and even not had justice among whites. We can deduce that for people in Alabama during the Great Depression not all had the same rights as citizens, but over the years this has changed a lot, we can see justice in every single person regardless of money or color, and to make a trial against someone the judge requires a lot of evidence to convict someone.
I agree with you, Karen. There is such little equality under the law at this time. Some how even with it being so unequal, people could not give up their racist way of life when a man's own life is on the line.
The jury in the courthouse of Maycomb county determine if someone is guilty of innocent based on the skin color. Before the beginning of the trial the jury already knew that Tom was guilty because his skin color.
"I know, and lots of 'em probably deserved it, too but in the absence of eye-witnesses there's always a doubt, sometimes only the shadow of a doubt. The law says 'reasonable doubt,' but I think a defendant's entitled to the shadow of a doubt. There's always the possibility, no matter how improbable, that he's innocent." P: 294 L:22
Jem was asking his father about the trial, he was curious to know who chooses the jury and why the people in maycomb can't choose them. Jem felt very sad to learn that the judge declare Tom guilty even though they didn't had enough evidence against him. What surprised more to Scout during talks with his father was that a woman cannot be part of a jury.
During this period of time people were only judged by the deductions that the jury had, or what they believed, they dont demand evidence and that was the biggest reason why people guilty or innocent were judged equally, when a clean and a clear evidence was needed to convict a person. Some occasion they convict people to death just because they thought that they were guilty.
Is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? During the great depression justice was not the same for everyone even if they are native to the United States as what happened at the trial any black was treated like a white, and even not had justice among whites. We can deduce that for people in Alabama during the Great Depression not all had the same rights as citizens, but over the years this has changed a lot, we can see justice in every single person regardless of money or color, and to make a trial against someone the judge requires a lot of evidence to convict someone.
When Scout found out that a woman cannot be on a jury I felt that she was confused. It must be harder for her to understand why they can't be on it, because she's a tomboy. She also doesn't consider herself girly or ladylike and she could have wondered if being a tomboy was an exception for women to be on a jury.
“But lots of folks have been hung—hanged—on circumstantial evidence,” said Jem. page 294
In this scene, Atticus is explaining to Jem that he believes that there should be more evidence to support each sides testimony before a conclusion is made. Jem then says there have been lots of verdicts made based on circumstantial evidence. Tom’s trial was based mostly on what each person said happened on that night. Mayella said he harmed her, while Tom said she kissed him. There was no evidence of any kind to support either side, but there was no evidence to go against them either. Atticus also kept asking about any doctors that were involved to determine how bad the injuries were, since there was no doctor involved there was no proof that Mayella had been hurt.
I believe that before the jury comes to a decision, there should be hard facts and evidence that supports each side of the story. I feel that when “he said this” or “she said that” is the only kind of evidence in a case, then the case should be postponed until more facts are found. In courthouses today, jurors just have to say whether they think the defendant is guilty or not. I wish that a jury would have to explain why they chose their answer and use other evidence from the case to back it up. The theme in this chapter is justice under the law. There was no justice in this case, because the jury only believed Bob Ewell, because of his skin color. Tom was found guilty not because of any facts, but because of racism in the courthouse. If there had been facts against the Ewells that supported Tom, then the outcome could have been way different.
“This was not good enough for Jem. ‘No Sir, they oughta do away with juries. He wasn’t guilty in the first place and they said he was.’” Chapter 23 Page 295
In this chapter, Jem is awestruck by the verdict of the trial. He just cannot rationalize why they would convict Tom, when there is so much evidence supporting him.
A few years ago, there was a case that was brought back to court about an American girl named Amanda Knox, who was accused of murdering her British roommate, Meredith Kercher, while studying in Italy. Originally, Knox was convicted of homicide and was sentenced to 26 years in prison. Knox was convicted with very little evidence proving that she did anything wrong, just like Tom Robinson. However, in 2009, Knox’s conviction was reversed. Although these cases were very far apart, both defendants were convicted with little proof.
This scene has to do with both the damage done by racism, and how there is inequality for some under the law. The jury on Tom’s trial consisted of solely middle-aged white males. This jury was extremely biased and this impacted the final verdict of this case. These men are very racist, and rather than interpreting the given facts, they looked no farther than the color of his skin.
Great text-to-world connection Kathryn. It is upsetting to think how many people have been convicted in the past for something that they have not done. Precious time in life can just get thrown into a cell when there is a bias jury. The same thing happened to Tom even though they didn't have a lot of evidence he still got convicted because of the racism and segregation at that point in time.
That is very true. Both Amanda and Tom were convicted due to speculation instead of fact. Your final paragraph made me think if it is possible to have an unbiased jury. We make judgments about people so easily and with little knowledge of who they are.
Jem and I didn't think it entertaining…. Atticus discovered how deeply frightened we were. He tempted with Jem with a new football magazine one night; when he saw Jem flip the pages and toss it aside, he said, “What is bothering you, son?” Chapter 23, page 292
In these scene, Scout and Jem are talking about the threat Mr. Gilmer gave Atticus. They say that they want him to carry a gun with him but he does not want to. They are afraid of something might happen to their dad.
If I were Scout or Jem I would be more than frightened. The children are so afraid that Mr. Ewell is going to hurt Atticus because he threatened him. Atticus is not afraid, demonstrating that he has empathy. Atticus might not find it afraid but the kids do.
The theme that connects with this scene is the importance of home and family. Not much frightens Atticus, and he tries to keep his own problems to himself. He realizes that the children are afraid of Bob Ewell, and he tries to calm them down by telling them that Mr. Ewell is all bark and no bite.
“This was not good enough for Jem. ‘No Sir, they oughta do away with juries. He wasn’t guilty in the first place and they said he was.’” Page 295
In this scene Jem is explaining to Atticus how there should not be juries in court. He thinks this because Tom was not guilty yet almost all of the jurors found Tom guilty. Atticus explains to him that no matter what if its a white mans words against a black man, the white man is going to win.
Today there are some wrongful convictions that happen every once in a while. A man or woman is convicted of something that he/she did not do. In many cases they end up in jail and some even face the death penalty. It is very similar to Tom Robinson’s case. He was falsely accused of rape and now faces life or death. The difference is, that in real life these people are mainly just falsely accused. While in Tom’s case he is being accused because of his race. It is really shocking to see that these false convictions happen often in real life too.
This connects to the theme of inequality under the law and also the damage done by racism. First, the jury really shows how unequal the law was back then. With a man with his life on the line, the jurors are still very racist and vote him guilty just because of his race. This has to do with the damage done by racism because Tom is facing life or death just because of the racist society in Maycomb.
“ In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Page 295.
In this scene Atticus is telling Jem how the law works in Maycomb and how a black person can’t win against a white person. Atticus knows that it is not fair and so does Jem so Atticus is telling Jem that its just how life is.
I agree with the lesson that Atticus is telling Jem although I hate that he is true. Today there is still some racism that dwells within some people. Although the amount of racism is not nearly as significant as it was in the 1930s it still exists. Atticus seems to be one of a few people who are not racist and I respect him for that, plus he is a good father.
This scene has to do with the damage dealt by racism and justice under the law in the United States. As Atticus said In our courts… the white man always wins, which just shows you that the justice system back then was corrupted and one sided. This shows damage dealt by racism again as in what Atticus said, the white man always wins, which should definitely not be the case.
Nice way to connect to the damage done by racism. You made a nice lesson in your quote, and I understand why you agree on what he said. It is a valid point, especially on the time this took place.
"According to Miss Stephanie Crawford, however, Atticus was leaving the post office when Mr. Ewell approached him, cursed him, spat on him, and threatened to kill him." page 291.
In this scene, Scout is narrating what Miss Stephanie said to her about what happened to Atticus. During the whole time of the trial and the time leading up to it, Atticus has shown courage and was able to pull through the trial. Not many people in the world today have the traits that Atticus contains. It is hard to truly stand up for the person who is thought less of and try to defend them.
This ties into the theme of the true definition of courage, because Atticus has shown that all throughout the second half of the book, which includes the time leading up to the trial, and the actual trial itself.
I agree with you that Atticus is a type of person who is hard to come by in society today. He is extremely courageous unlike many other people in Maycomb.
“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Page 295.
In this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem how there is proper form of law, and how the law is handled in Maycomb. In the small town of Maycomb black people are never proven innocent because racism stands in the way.
Although it might now be what Jem wants to hear, it is the reality that he must come to in the transition from a boy to a young adult. Many situations in our world today such as the Ferguson trial, Trayvon Martin case, and the death of Eric Garner, all resulted in the death of a black man. Not only did every black man die, but all the white killers, got away with what they did.
The theme that connects to this scene is damage done by racism. Although all the information that was collected could clearly lead people to believe that Bob Ewell beat his own child, the jury still votes the black guy, Tom Robinson, to be guilty. Tom Robinson’s family has to suffer without him because the whites purposefully threw away his life, any without sorrow, grief, or understanding.
“It ain't right. He didn't kill anybody even if you was guilty. He didn't take anybody's life.” Page 293
In this scene, Scout asks her father what will happen to Tom if he loses his appeal. Atticus replies that Tom will be put to the chair. Jem’s ears seem to perk up at this and it leads him to mutter this out.
Although Jem does make a good point, it is so much more complicated than that in the justice system. Even today, people are put to death for crimes that didn’t involve any deaths. There are pros and cons to it that are still debated today. For example, it does help make murder and other capital offenses more and more rarer because people are scared of it. On the other hand, killing someone for something that they may or may not have done is still murder. Think of all the innocent people who die every year who were wrongly accused of a crime! I mean, not everyone in prison is guilty, the legal system isn’t perfect.
This brings me to the main theme that connects to this. Is there really justice under the law system of the United States? If there are innocent people dying for crimes they didn’t do, then I would say no. Unfortunately, there will always be human error, but that can be decreased to a point where it is less than where it is now. Now, the jury usually is made of our own peers but there are still people who will be prejudice toward the suspect. That is something that we can change; the racist men and women in America should not be able to serve in the jury. Especially if one of the people involved is of a different race.
“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Ch.23 pg. 295
In this scene, Atticus is explaining to Jem about how the law works. People are not fair and it makes some people lose their minds. Atticus gave Jem a good lesson on white people and racism because as he gets older, he will see it more often.
I strongly agree with Atticus because racism is everywhere. No matter where you are, it’s there whether you notice it or not. As me being from a hispanic ethnic, I notice some people look at me differently. Many people from their own ethnicity are racist to themselves too. I do get jokes thrown at me and sometimes cruel comments from people, even from some fellow hispanics. It could because I play football and not soccer or because I hang out with people from a different race or because English is my primary language and not Spanish. Racism is a disease that spreads like wildfire.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Even though Tom was not guilty of the crime he was accused of, the jurors decided to make their biased decision and announce Tom guilty.
I agree that there is still racism today and it is not just between blacks and whites. It happens to people of all different races. I think that if there were not just all white men on the jury then it would be a lot less biased and more fair.
“There’s something in our world that makes a men lose their heads-they couldn’t be fair if they tried. In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” page 295
This is a scene when Atticus is discussing with Jem about the law in Maycomb. Atticus was telling Jem that he was the juror at the trial, Tom would have been a freeman. Atticus wanted to explain to Jem the different between white and black in reality.
Today in our world, there are still some white people who are racist and don’t think equally to black people. And white people try to win by power against black people, but now we have a laws and in trial, they wouldn’t let someone be guilty just because that person’s skin color or culture.
The theme that connect to this theme is the damage done by racism. Atticus was doing his best to defend Tom, but because of power of white people and black people weren’t respected. Just because of Tom Robbinson’s skin color, he is guilty and will get death penalty.
“As you grow older, you’ll see white men cheat black men every day of your life, but let me tell you something and don’t you forget it--whenever a white man does that to a black man, no matter who he is, how rich he is, or how fine a family he comes from, that white man is trash.” P295
In this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem and Scout that no matter who that white man is, if he cheats a black man, he is trash. Atticus is a strong believer in the idea that all men are created equal. He wants to ensure that his children carry on his beliefs throughout their lives.
Atticus Finch is a good father. He sets a good example for his children, always keeping in mind what they see him as, and keeping himself as the ideal role model. Atticus reminds me of John Walton, the father of 4 kids in a T.V. show I used to watch when I was younger. John Walton is a hardworking honest man who is a fantastic role model for his children, just like Atticus.
The theme most represented in this scene is the importance of home and family? I don’t think Atticus expected to win the trial involving Mayella Ewell because his defendant was a black man. All the people living in Maycomb knew Tom would be convicted because a black winning over a white in such a huge case was unheard of. Yet Atticus still tried his best for himself, and for his children. His children would be watching and it was important for them to know Atticus was the opposite of the trash he spoke of on page 295.
‘In our courts, when its a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always win. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Chapter 23 page 295
In this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem how the law works in maycomb and how its unfair. Jem is too young to know about racism so Atticus is giving him a good life lesson about life during the great depression. He tells Jem that not everything was fair but you just had to deal with it.
I agree with Atticus telling his son about racism because Jem was going to find out some time so its better he learned it from his father rather than learning it the hard way. It is better for Jem to find out sooner rather than later.
The text to theme connection is the effect of racism. Under the constitution every man has the right to have a trail in front of his peers that have something in common with him. Tom did not receive that because he was judged based on his race. Because of racism Tom Robinson was wrongly convicted.
Liam I agree with you because you're right, not everything in life is fair, and people will encounter hardships and setbacks, however, eventually you'll just have to deal with it.
I agree with Liam and Sonny because there are so many important lessons in life that kids should be taught from their parents are someone important in life. However, I think Jem is old enough that he already understands a lot of the racism that takes place in Maycomb.
“‘That’s what I thought, too,’ he said at last, ‘when I was your age. If there’s just one kind of folks, why can’t they get along with each other? If they’re all alike, why do they go out of their way to despise each other? Scout, I think I’m beginning to understand something. I think I am beginning to understand why Boo Radley’s stayed shut up in that house all this time. . . it’s because he wants to stay inside.’” Chapter 23 Page 304.
Here, Jem is talking to Scout about how he doesn’t understand why there is so much racial tension in the world. He believes that we are all a part of the human race, and despite our differences in appearance, we should all learn to respect one another.
Today, there is still a large gap between races, and racial tension is still present in society. A few years back, there was a controversial case that took place in Sanford, Florida. George Zimmerman, a member of a neighborhood watch service, shot 18 year old, Trayvon Martin, to death in a gated-off community. Zimmerman testified saying that Martin had attacked him, while others believe that this was not the case. Zimmerman also stated that Martin looked suspicious because he was wearing a hoodie over his head. Cases such as this one have become increasingly common in our world today. Just as Tom’s race played a role in the outcome of this trial, it is arguable that Zimmerman racially profiled Martin because he was a skeptical-looking African American teenager.
This scene represents the damage done by racism. It is because of this racism that Jem is angry. He doesn’t understand why people can’t live together in unison. In some ways, Jem represents a younger Atticus. He has similar views regarding racism and discrimination. He looks beyond skin color, which many people in Maycomb are incapable of doing.
But when he noticed us dragging around the neighborhood, not eating, taking little interest in our normal pursuits, Atticus discovered how deeply frightened we were. He tempted Jem with a new football magazine one night; when he saw Jem flip the pages and toss it aside, he said, “What’s bothering you, son?” Jem came to the point: “Mr. Ewell.” “What has happened?” “Nothing’s happened. We’re scared for you, and we think you oughta do something about him.” Atticus smiled wryly. “Do what? Put him under a peace bond?” “When a man says he’s gonna get you, looks like he means it.” p.292
This scene is between Jem and Atticus, and it shows how Jem is scared for Atticus because Atticus was threatened by Bob Ewell.
I think that the theme relating to this scene is the importance of home and family. It is clear that Jem loves his father and cares deeply for him. Jem is scared after a little threat from a drunken man towards his father, and his father is a brave man. Atticus has always been a wonderful dad to Jem and Scout, and there’s proof of it when his children show so much love and respect for him.
There are many times when I am scared for my father, for example, once he was with me in the city, and a scary man started banging on our car. I was terrified by the eccentric man, and my father caused my terror to increase once he got out of the car and told the man to stop. In the end, all was well, and my respect increased when I saw how brave my father reacted.
Here is an article to read more about bravery and the love and importance of home and family:
“As you grow older, you’ll see white men cheat black men every day of your life, but let me tell you something and don’t you forget it--whenever a white man does that to a black man, no matter who he is, how rich he is, or how fine a family he comes from, that white man is trash.” page 295
In this scene, Atticus tells his kids that any white man that insults a black man is a jerk and an awful role model.
Atticus is similar to Thomas Jefferson in the way that they both believe that all men are created equally. The fact that our Founding Fathers were not able to enforce equality of all men still shocks me today. Our nation was founded based on the belief that all men are created equally, however, look at our society today. There are still racists out there and there is nothing we can do about it.
The theme the most demonstrated in this chapter is the importance of home and family. Atticus did not enter the court room with high hopes but, he gave the case his all. Even though Atticus didn't enter the trial with a good feeling, he still showed his kids the phenomenal role model he is.
“If you had been on that jury, son, and eleven other boys like you, Tom would be a free man… In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Page 295
In this scene, Atticus is talking to Jem about Tom being found guilty and how the court system right now isn’t fair for the black man.
In contrast to today, during the Great Depression in Maycomb county, people were very racist and prejudiced towards Blacks, and that is clear to see based on the outcome of the Tom Robinson case. Luckily, today, while racism hasn’t been completely abolished, in our courts today, everybodies word is looked at as equal, and won’t receive judgement based on the race of the person whose word it is.
The theme that connects to this scene is, is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? While clearly, at this point in history there is not justice for all under law in the United states, this quote shows hope for future generations. Atticus talks about how if it was a jury of twelve boys like Jem, Tom would be free. This shows that the current generation of kids will grow up to be fair racially tolerant people who will be able to make just decisions in court.
“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Page 295.
In this scene, Atticus is explains to Jem how the law works in Maycomb. Black people in their town are never proven innocent because of the racism.
I agree with the lesson Atticus is teaching Jem in this scene. He is teaching Jem that not everything in life is right or fair but it is just how things are. It’s important that Jem knows this so he can deal with disappoints and the unexpected situations that Jem with face in his life.
The theme that connects to this scene is damage done by racism. Even though there wasn’t any evidence that could prove Tom Robinson guilty, he was proven guilty. This is because in such a racist town like Maycomb, a white mans word really does sircom a black man’s. Now that Tom is convicted, his wife and daughter will have to live on their own.
I hate how this quote can still be applied to today's court system. A person is more likely to be convicted of a crime if they are black. There have probably been many convictions such as Tom's that occurred in this time period and before, that happened because a white man’s word was valued more so than a black mans was.
“ I’ll tell you why, she said. Because-- he-- is--trash, that’s why you can’t play with him.” (Page 301)
In this section, Scout was saying how she wanted to bring Walter Cunningham home for dinner when school starts. Aunt Alexandra immediately explained to her why she was not allowed to do that.
Throughout the book we were able to get to know Aunt Alexandra. We have learned that she is very serious about the family name. What I don’t understand is why she would tell Scout that she can’t be friends with Walter. Scout gets really upset when Aunt Alexandra says this, she even starts crying. I read an article about a young girl who was not allowed to go to a sleepover because the little girl hosting the sleepover was black. She really wanted to go but her father would not let her. He did not want her going there and acting like them. That was the same way that Aunt Alexandra was. This time it was not because of race but because of how the Cunninghams lived. She said she didn’t want Scout picking up any bad habits from them. ( The link to the article will be down below) http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/18/my-dad-wont-let-me-go-because-you-are-black-little-girls-racist-birthday-party-letter-5109036/
The theme that goes best with this section is the importance of home and family. Aunt Alexandra’s obsession with making sure the family name stays perfect sometimes blinds her from what is really important. Atticus and Aunt Alexandra have very different parenting styles. Atticus wants Scout to be kind to Walter and does not mind her being friends with him. He even scolded her for making fun of him last time he came over. On the other hand, Aunt Alexandra didn’t even want Walter coming over to the house
There’s something in our world that makes men lose their heads—they couldn’t be fair if they tried. In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” page 295
this scene is when Atticus tells Jem about the reason why he lost the trial even though he had more evidence of not guilty than guilty.
Sadly even still now in the world, this quote is true. It has become better but sadly most times the white man wins. But now, there are cases when the black man wins because of the fairness of trials now.
The theme here is the damage done by racism. The reason why Atticus has lost in trial also is because of this. Back during the great depression, the white man won unless there was absolute proof of evidence in not guilty. Now we have DNA research and other types of ways to identify.
“Atticus says you can choose your friends but you sho’ can’t choose your family, an’ they’re still kin to you no matter whether you acknowledge ‘em on not, and it makes you look right silly when you don’t.”- Page 300
In this scene Scout is having a conversation with Aunt Alexandra over Walter Cunningham. Scout finds out that it was one of the Cunninghams that was part of the jury and defended Tom Robinson and wants to thank them by inviting Water over to his house but Aunt Alexandra disagrees. She comments on this idea saying that even if he was related to them she would still not like it if Scout were to spend a lot of time with him. After hearing this Jem joins into the conversation saying the above quote.
I can agree to this scene. I agree with what Atticus has told Jem because your family only wants what’s best for you, even if they don’t always show it. It is family who is always there to support you. I disagree with Aunt Alexandra’s thought of treating Walter Cunningham with disgrace if he was actually part of their family.
The theme that is represented in this scene is the importance of home and family. Aunt Alexandra is very protective over Scout and Jem and only wants what’s best for them but she doesn’t always have the right approach to situations like these. I believe her pride of her family contributes in her actions, for she wants to be seen as respectable rather than “trash”.
I agree with you Joanna. I never agree with what Aunt Alexandra has to say. It seems as if she always has to be right and feels that she needs to control the kids. Scout has the right intentions on thanking the Cunningham family and inviting Walter over. Aunt Alexandra tries to change Scout and Jem into being people they aren't. I agree with your theme choice, as well. Aunt Alexandra thinks she doing what's best for the kids, but I feel like she only "stunting their growth" and not allowing them to develop into the people they are meant to be.
“There’s nothing more sickening than a low-grade white man who’ll take advantage of a Negro’s ignorance. Don’t fool yourselves- it’s all adding up and one of these days we’re going to pay the bill for it. I hope it’s not in your children’s time.” page 296
In this scene Atticus, Jem and Scout are discussing the justice system. Jem doesn’t understand why changes can’t be made immediately. Atticus is trying to reinforce the idea of equality to Jem and Scout; telling them that you are a bad person based on how you treat people, not what color your skin is.
I think that the life lesson Atticus was teaching his children is very important. He states that a man needs to be responsible for his actions and behavior. Wealth, social standing, skin color, and family name does not give anyone the right to treat another poorly.
..."In our courts, when it's a white man's word against a black man's, the white man always wins. They're ugly, but those are the facts of life." Pg. 295
In this scene, Atticus tries to explain to Jem the reason why Tom was found guilty even though there is no evidence to prove it.
The point Atticus is trying to make is that the only way times will change is if people change. The jury determined Tom's fate. If there were a jury of people during our time period, Tom Robinson would be found not guilty, no doubt. It's important for Jem to know that Tom was only found guilty because of how people viewed him and his race. Atticus had to explain that it was practically impossible for Tom to be proven not guilty at the trial and there wasn't much Atticus could do to influence the jury.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Since Maycomb was such a racist town, choices and viewpoints relied on how the town saw people; blacks in particular. This quote shows hope for future generations and how things can hopefully change. It all starts with people accepting those who are different and understanding that we are all equal, regardless of race.
“‘If you had been on that jury, son, and eleven other boys like you, Tom would be a free man,’ said Atticus. ‘So far nothing in your life has interfered with your reasoning process. Those are twelve reasonable men in everyday life, Tom’s jury, but you saw something come between them and reason.”’ Page 295.
In this scene, Atticus is explaining to Jem why the jury convicted Tom. It was because their opinions got the better of them.
I agree with Atticus. As a child, you aren’t exposed much to the world, so you form very view opinions, which is helpful in reasoning; it isn’t influenced by your personal beliefs. As an adult, however, opinions get in the way of reason, which can lead to unfairness. For instance, in the political world, adults are usually strictly a democrat or a republican. As a supporter of a party, adults very rarely see any good in the actions of the opposing party, which interferes with the function of the government since they can’t agree on much. Even if the actions of the opposing party are obviously beneficial to the country, they try to see negativity in it simply because they are loyal to their own party and have developed negative opinions toward the other.
This scene can fall under the themes of the harm done by racism and the difficult transition into adulthood. Racism is what got in between Tom’s jury and reason. Their personal beliefs toward African-Americans is what influenced their decision, not the evidence provided, which is unfair to Tom and his family. If people like Jem were on the jury, ones, especially children, whose opinions wouldn’t influence their decisions, Tom would be a free man.
I agree with most of your comments. However, I don't think that adults are that firmly decided when it comes to being a democrat or a republican. There have been many instances in recent elections where adults switched parties because they felt the opposite party more closely reflected their views. I think that the views of the democrats and republicans change over time because they take into consideration their own experiences and their feelings about local and national events.
“Too proud to fight, you nigger loving bastard?” Page 291
In this scene, Bob Ewell stopped Atticus in the middle of the street, and spat in his face. Angry at the fact that Atticus made no violent response, he asked him this.
I can relate to this. Being in a large family with lots of brothers, I can relate to a number of times that we have fought and said things to provoke each other. Although our comments would seem rather tame compared to what Bob curses at Atticus, the intent to fight is the same. I think that all people that have a sibling of the same gender as them that is around the same age as them can relate to this.
This can connect to the theme of the damage done by racism. Bob Ewell is furious with the fact that Atticus attempted to let Tom go free, and wanted to fight. I think that he was also influenced by the vast amounts of alcohol that was likely in his system. The fact that he is so enraged by the mere fact that Atticus defended a black man over a white man just shows how racist he is. The town of Maycomb is a terrible place to be if you are not a racist person who has no value for any life that is not white.
“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins.” Chapter 23 page 295
In this scene Jem is aggravated that Tom is not found automatically innocent. Jem knows that Tom is not guilty and did not do it and Atticus knows it to. Atticus is trying to explain to him that in court a white man’s word is better than a black man’s. Although it is ugly it is the truth Atticus tells Jem.
I find this quote extremely disturbing especially in this situation. The fact that the jury cannot see that the Ewell’s word is completely unreliable is unbelievable. Bob Ewell is a drunk who beats his children and Mayella Ewell only completed 2 years of school. The jury is only going with their word because they are white and Tom is black. In this scenario the way the jury is handling this is completely wrong. Even if they were racist and did not like Tom they should have taken his word just as seriously if not more serious than the Ewell’s. This shows ignorance in the United States court system and deeply frustrates me. Everyone should have an equal say. Today everyone’s word is treated equally no matter what color your skin is. Also the jury would not base their decision on the word of someone, they would need medical evidence in order to make their decision. With the technology that we have today and that strides we have made towards racial equality, Tom would be found innocent in a second.
This quote connects to the damage done by racism. Racism was so bad in the 1930’s that people in the court would not take a black man’s word seriously when it was against a white man’s even after he had sworn to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. People thought so little of African Americans because it is what their parents taught them was right. Bob Ewell spit on Atticus and threatened to kill him because he was defending Tom Robinson. Now do you think Bob’s kids are going to grow up and accept other races? No because that is not the example Bob is leading. He is not the only one, all the people in the mob in chapter 16 are clearly not setting good examples for their children either. The damage this does to a society is unfathomable, good hard working men like Tom are put on trial for a crime with no evidence against them, just the word of another man. All in all this country has come a long way in the court system.
I find it disturbing as well. The jury's strong negative opinions toward blacks caused them to completely disregard how unreliable the prosecution witnesses were. That's unjust to Tom and the African-American community.
Chapter 23: “As you grow older, you’ll see white men cheat black men every day of your life, but let me tell you something and don’t you forget it--whenever a white man does that to a black man, no matter who he is, how rich he is, or how fine a family he comes from, that white man is trash.” (Page 295)
In this scene Atticus explains how white men use or take advantage of black men every day. This hurts Atticus since he believes that all men were created equal. Atticus has always treated black men the same as white men and wants to have his kids do the same. If his children treat everyone equally and then there children do and so on he can ensure that they will all know how to treat black and white people everywhere.
I recently found a great article that talks about fathers just like Atticus who made a big impact on their childrens lives and others also. The list includes Brad Pitt, Warren Buffet and more. Both of these men have given millions of dollars to help the less fortunate. Just like Atticus they are all for the best for the children. Just like Atticus they are doing a great job at creating a path for their kids so they can become successful and help others just like their fathers are. All three of them are doing a great thing and are fantastic role models. If their children can follow in their footsteps than the future is bright.
The two themes represented are the importance of home and family and is their really justice for all in the United States? Atticus was not expecting to win the case and that is because their isn't justice for all in the United States. Tom Robinson is a colored man and in this historical period it was unheard of for a colored man to win a case in court. Atticus is a big family guy. His kids look up to him and try to learn from them. Atticus strengthens the bond every time he does something courageous because his kids really admire that. Atticus does the best for his family as he possibly could.
“Jem, see if you can stand in Bob Ewell’s shoes for a minute. I destroyed his last shred of credibility at that trial, if he had any to begin with. The man had to have some kind of comeback, his kind always does. So if spitting in my face and threatening me saved Mayella Ewell one extra beating, that’s something I’ll gladly take.” Page 292-293
In this scene, Jem is very disturbed and scared that Bob Ewell is going to hurt Atticus because he spit on Atticus’ face in town. Atticus just stood there when Mr. Ewell did this and he took it. Atticus explains to Jem why Mr. Ewell did this and convinces Jem not to be scared anymore.
In our society today, a phrase that is commonly used is “don’t judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes.” I think that Atticus is trying to explain this to Jem by telling him to consider Mr. Ewell’s situation. There are times in every person’s life when they do not understand why someone acted a certain way or said something. When I was little, I was taught this phrase and put myself in the other person’s shoes when faced with these kinds of situations.
Themes that are portrayed in this scene are the true definition of courage, the importance of home and family, and damage done by racism. Atticus displays what real courage is when he does not react to Mr. Ewell spitting on him. He does not take action because he wants to let Bob take his anger out on him as opposed to Mayella. Atticus doesn’t have a violent response because he can’t, instead Atticus realizes he is helping Mayella but taking her punishment by Mr. Ewell. Atticus explains why he let Mr. Ewell spit on him to Jem and shows him his reasoning. By this, he is teaching Jem an important lesson and how to act in certain situations. Due to racism, Atticus and the Finch family are not treated respectfully at all. They are being terrorized and criticized by the people of Maycomb because Atticus is defending a black man. This is exposing the young children, Jem and Scout, to the effects of racism at a young age.
“...you sho’ can’t choose your family, an’ they’re still kin to you no matter whether you acknowledge ‘em or not, and it makes you look right silly when you don’t. Chapter 23 -In this scene Aunt Alexandra was trying to explain that if Walter Cunningham was part of their family, she wouldn't let him go inside of the house because he’s different. Also Jem said this to Aunt Alexandra after he heard Atticus say it. In my opinion I think that this is something that happens a lot in our world. Nowadays people have more problems with their family and they don’t like some of their family members. I mean they're your family and you don’t get to pick your family you should accept them no matter how they are. The theme that connects to this scene is the importance of family. Families need to accept each other, families are stronger when the are close. Family should always help you get out of troubles and they will always guide you through the right path. To support you when you're not feeling well and in the bad and good days. If I was in their place I wouldn't try to ignore my own family or discriminate them because you will always see them and then you will regret doing what you did.
” … So if spitting in my face and threatening me saved Mayella Ewell one extra beating , that’s something I’ll gladly take.He had to take it out on somebody and I’d rather it be me than that houseful of children” Pg 293 In this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem why he’d rather get then the kids get hurt. If I were Atticus I would’ve thought the same way . I could never live with myself knowing that someone is beating their own kids just to get rid other their stress or anger. I feel that Atticus showed his children what a true hero is ,and what it is to be a real man . Because now a days parents beat their kids as pleasure , and sadly those kids stay quiet because they live in fear that if they do tell someone . They would get even more beaten then before. This scene connects to the importance of home and family. This is because family is where you’re supposed to feel safe and not scared of . Many kids want to kill themselves because they think and know that they will have better lives dead than to be alive and get beaten everyday of their young lives.
This quote is definitely my favorite one for this chapter! It's a shame that Atticus wasn't able to say this very statement in court, that would just awe the jury.
On PG# 291, Ms. Stephanie Crawford states, “Atticus was leaving the post office when Mr. Ewell approached him, cursed him, spat on him, and threatened to kill him. Even then, Atticus didn’t bat an eye, just took out his handkerchief and wiped his face”.
In this scene, Ms. Stephanie Crawford explains to Scout and Jem how their father Atticus was approached by his rival in court, Bob Ewell, father of the allegedly raped Mayella Ewell.
The scene shows a great example of the theme of the true definition of courage.
“If you had been on that jury, son, and eleven other boys like you, Tom would be a free man,” said Atticus. “So far nothing in your life has interfered with your reasoning process…” Page 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Jem is very upset because the jury convicted Tom of raping and beating Mayella when the evidence clearly did not support it. In the excerpt, Atticus tries to explain to Jem that nothing has interfered with the way he sees the evidence, which is why he believes in Tom’s innocence. Atticus explains that the people in the jury are generally reasonable people, but their prejudice gets in the way of their judgement.
Children’s minds are very open to influence by adults in their community. Atticus teaches his children not to be racist, so they do not understand why other people are. Examples of this are shown in the world today. For example, children are susceptible to being brainwashed or influenced. Today, a terrorist group in the Middle East, Isis, is recruiting children and teenagers to join their forces. They know that they can train them to believe that their beliefs are correct. A fourteen year old boy in Baghdad was targeted at a mosque and Isis members convinced him to kill Shiites.After a while, he realized that what he was doing was wrong, so he turned himself in. He was lucky but many are not.
This article is about the boy in Baghdad, Iraq who was convinced to join Isis.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/27/world/middleeast/syria-isis-recruits-teenagers-as-suicide-bombers.html?_r=0
Themes that relate to this scene are how important home and family is to a child, the harm done by racism, and unfair justice for all under the law in the United States. A child’s home life and family greatly influence who they grow up to be. The values that are instilled in them and their beliefs are taught from a young age. During the 1930s, many people were racist against African Americans and they passed this on to their children. If you are taught a racist view, then you tend to carry those views into adulthood. This racist view was even present in the jury. This made trials unfair because the jury was didn’t exercise good judgement. Therefore, there was not justice for all under the law in the United States due to prejudice.
I realized in this chapter especially that Jem is not so naive anymore. He is beginning to see racism through his own eyes and he understands it more than when he was younger. When Jem was younger I don't think that he could really see any racism for himself, he needed to grow up a little more to be able to experience it.
DeleteI like how you related Jem to children today in the Middle East. Obviously, Jem is not becoming a terrorist any time soon but he can just as easily be taught right from wrong and what the world around him believes. It is important that children learn early how to go through life without causing trouble.
Delete“Jem, see if you can stand in Bob
ReplyDeleteEwell’s shoes a minute. I destroyed his last shred of credibility at that trial, if he
had any to begin with. The man had to have some kind of comeback, his kind
always does. So if spitting in my face and threatening me saved Mayella Ewell
one extra beating, that’s something I’ll gladly take. He had to take it out on
somebody and I’d rather it be me than that houseful of children out there. You
understand?” In this scene, Atticus explains to Jem that Bob Ewell may threaten Atticus but he won't actually do anything about it. This quote relates to the theme of walking in someone else's shoes. Jem is scared that Atticus will get hurt and Atticus has him think what it would be like if his name got disgraced in front of the entire town when you had barely any reason for people to trust you in the first place.
I like this blog post Max. I believe that this scene also resembles the theme of importance of home and family, because Atticus is being a responsible role-model for his children.
DeleteMax, all of your blogs are always very convincing. I like the quote you use. It really shows the theme of the importance of home and family. Atticus would gladly save a child's life than his own.
DeleteI think that maybe Atticus is selflessly that he can feel compassion even for ob Ewell. Atticus is so generous because he knows he is so much better off the Ewells will ever be.
Delete“There’s always the possibility, no matter how improbable, that he’s innocent.”
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus discusses the flaws that he sees in the American justice system with Jem and Scout with Aunt Alexandra quietly listening in. He says in order to prove somebody guilty, one must have irrefutable evidence showing that it is utterly impossible for the accused to be innocent. He says that if there is a possibility for the accused to be innocent, they should not be convicted because they still may be innocent.
When I was little, I remember times where a teacher or parent thought I did something wrong when, in fact, somebody else had made the mistake. For example, especially in school, teacher sometimes think kids are talking, but they are actually behaving. This connects to the book because Tom Robinson was convicted based on circumstantial evidence. Truthfully, Tom is innocent, but he seemed guilty based on the witnesses and his daily life including walking by the Ewells’ house. He was not given the benefit of the doubt and is punished for no reason. I agree with Atticus because I think that one must be absolutely certain to punish somebody in case that somebody is actually innocent.
This proves that the American legal system is not always fair. Even Atticus says that sometimes it favors specific groups of people like white men. Sometimes, innocent people are sent to jail (or worse) for crimes they did not commit. This is one of the cruelest forms of torture because of the severity of the injustice. If the evidence is inconclusive, it is inexorably unfair to send one man to jail and let one go, without knowing for sure if either is guilty. It doesn’t matter if the man is probably guilty, like Tom Robinson with all the evidence stacked against him. It only matters that there’s a chance he’s innocent. It is inexcusable to send an innocent man to jail. (Pg. 294, Paragraph 6)
I agree with you Abby, I can definitely relate to what you said about teachers believing you where doing something wrong when really it was someone else. But, on a more serious not I also agree with what you said about Tom being convicted on circumstantial evidence. However I disagree with you about what you said in regard to his daily walk by the house. I think that this makes him look more innocent because he could have gone in any day by force and raped and beaten Mayella Ewell but, he only went into the residence when asked to help with something. I believe that this is something that could help prove Tom's innocence, not revoke it.
Delete“...you sho’ can’t choose your family, an’ they’re still kin to you no matter whether you acknowledge ‘em or not, and it makes you look right silly when you don’t.
ReplyDeleteJem recites this to Aunt Alexandra after hearing Atticus say it. Aunt Alexandra was explaining that if Walter Cunningham was a part of their family, she wouldn’t let him inside the house because he’s a different kind of person.
I’m not crazy about my family sometimes. All my cousins are boys, so I never really got along with them because they were always playing football and other things that I didn’t want to play. This is similar in some ways to Scout’s situation regarding family. She doesn’t get along with her cousin, Francis, or Aunt Alexandra. She is learning to accept them, though, and to be kind to them no matter how they treat her. This is something that everybody with a family needs to learn. You can’t pick your family, so you need to learn to cope with them.
This scene also shows the importance of family. Families need to learn to accept each other because families are always better off when they stick together. If somebody gets in trouble, it is the friends and family of the person that helps get them out of it. In addition, you can’t avoid family because you will always have mutual family members in common which will bring you together. For this reason, it’s always a bad idea to ignore family because it will be very awkward when you see each other again. Atticus and Jem say, “you look right silly when you don’t.” They mean that being close to your family can’t hurt you and will only hurt your best connections to people in this world. No matter who your family is, it is always important to be close, or at least tolerant of them so that you have close, helpful people that will support you if you need it. (Pg. 300, Paragraph 8)
“ According to Miss Stephanie Crawford, however, Atticus was leaving the post office when Mr. Bob Ewell approached him, cursed him, spat on him, and threatened to kill him...Miss Stephanie said he didn’t bat an eye, just took out his handkerchief and wiped his face and stood there and let Mr. Ewell call him names wild horses could not bring her to repeat.” Middle of page 291
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Miss. Stephanie Crawford is explaining what Mr. Ewell did to Atticus in the post office. She Explained to the kids ( Jem, Scout and Dill) that Mr. Ewell spit in his face, cursed him, called him names, and threatened to kill him. But, Atticus just stood there taking all Bob Ewells heat and anger that was thrust upon Atticus. While this scene unfolded Atticus didn’t say anything and remained calm.
If I was in Atticus’ position, I would have either reacted rationally like Atticus. I would have been calm if I thought about how reacting about the situation. Or I would have gone crazy and become mad and try to defend myself. But, if I reacted badly my position would be damaged because I didn’t stand my ground. That would show that at these type of problems I can not handle them rationally.
This quote connects to the theme of the true definition of courage. While Mr. Ewell spits on, calls Atticus names, and threatened Atticus, Atticus stayed perfectly calm. He let Mr. Ewell fire our all his rage. Atticus was courageous because he didn’t fight back. He simply took the tyrannical comments and went along with his day. If he had acted badly that is, it could have scarred his reputation and his position. The faith of those who wanted Tom to be unguilty would be worried, while Mr. Ewell would be overjoyed at his obvious win.
After defending Tom, if Atticus had fought Bob Ewell then his reputation would be gone. Many people would no longer see him as a respectable man. If I were him, I would have done the exact same thing, because it takes true courage to stand up to a man you were once against, a man who could hurt you if he really wanted to.
Delete“As you grow older, you’ll see white men cheat black men every day of your life, but let me tell you something and don’t you forget it--whenever a white man does that to a black man, no matter who he is, how rich he is, or how fine a family he comes from, that white man is trash.” page 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus explains to his children, Jem and Scout, how white men tend to take advantage of black men. This sickens Atticus because he believes in equality. He thinks that everyone should respect all others, regardless of their race. Atticus wants to ensure that Jem and Scout know how to treat others in their society.
People in our world today are still bullied because of their race or ethnicity. At my dance school, there is a group called Harmony Nation. We go to other schools and talk about how it is important not to bully others because of their race or the way they look and act. In To Kill a Mockingbird, Atticus consistently informs his children that everybody is equal. He explains how a black man is not less than a white man, everybody is the same and deserves a chance in society.
The themes that are most represented in this scene are is there really justice for all under the United States law and the damage done by racism. Atticus is not surprised that he did not win the case because his defendant, Tom Robinson is a colored man. The citizens of Maycomb county new that Tom did not have a chance at winning in court because during this time period, a white man always won over a black man. This is unfair because Tom had evidence that supports him, showing that he did not rape Mayella Ewell. Atticus believes that the jury, of all white men, cheated Tom Robinson. Tom should have won the case and according to Atticus, any white man who cheats a black man is trash.
I agree with you about what you said about Atticus teaching his kids to treat people equally. It was very important for parents to teach their kids this because it ultimately led to the end of segregation. People act out what they are taught so if everyone is taught to treat others equally no matter who they are there would be no more race issues. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction."- Ronald Reagan. This quote is relevant to what I am trying to say because it shows that a major change can happen in one generation. This holds true with segregation and racism. If everyone teaches their kids to treat others equal like Atticus does, segregation and racism would be gone.
Delete“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” pg. 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is explaining to Jem how the law works in Maycomb. People couldn’t be fair and it makes humans lose their heads. Atticus gives to Jem a good lesson about whites because the older he grows, the more of racism he will see.
I agree with Atticus lesson because the racism stills but fortunately not that bad. When I came to the United States I could see how people look at me. It was not everyone but I notice how some of them don’t even want to talk to me. Also, in the stores my family and I have been discriminated for our color and accent. Not only whites do this because I can tell you that most of the racist people are the same hispanics.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Even though Tom was not guilty, jurors decided to judge him because a white man’s word has more validity than black men’s word. Usually Atticus is a voice of hope for change, but here he flatly says that racism is a "fact of life," suggesting that losing Tom's case severely dented his optimism concerning human nature.
I agree with you very much Maria. It's a sad thing to see an innocent man be announced guilty for a crime he did not commit and all because of his race. I can strongly feel your connection to racism as well. I get the same feeling sometimes.
DeleteI agree with you also. I find it unfair that Tom is accused of rape when there is no evidence that he committed the crime. From the beginning of the trial, it was obvious that he would lose because of his skin color, which is very upsetting to me.
DeleteI like the way you describe the quote. According to Atticus, there is something about race that makes white people go crazy.
Delete"There's something in our world that makes men lose their heads—they couldn't be fair if they tried. In our courts, when it's a white man's word against a black man's, the white man always wins. They're ugly, but those are the facts of life.
ReplyDelete"The one place where a man ought to get a square deal is in a courtroom, be he any color of the rainbow, but people have a way of carrying their resentments right into a jury box." page 295
In this scene, Atticus is saying that there's just something about race that makes white people crazy.His holding up Jem as an exception because of his youth suggests that whatever that factor is, it's learned and not innate and it can be changed through education.
I think that law isn't a pure realm free of the prejudices that plague everyday life and usually Atticus is a voice of hope for change.
The theme that connects to the damage done by racism. Atticus is trying to defend Tom but every else in the court is against him, they think that Tom really commit the crime, even worse he will judge in based on the color of his skin.
"I know, and lots of 'em probably deserved it, too but in the absence of eye-witnesses there's always a doubt, sometimes only the shadow of a doubt. The law says 'reasonable doubt,' but I think a defendant's entitled to the shadow of a doubt. There's always the possibility, no matter how improbable, that he's innocent." P: 294 L:22
ReplyDeleteJem was asking his father about the trial, he was curious to know who chooses the jury and why the people in maycomb can't choose them. Jem felt very sad to learn that the judge declare Tom guilty even though they didn't had enough evidence against him. What surprised more to Scout during talks with his father was that a woman cannot be part of a jury.
During this period of time people were only judged by the deductions that the jury had, or what they believed, they dont demand evidence and that was the biggest reason why people guilty or innocent were judged equally, when a clean and a clear evidence was needed to convict a person. Some occasion they convict people to death just because they thought that they were guilty.
Is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? During the great depression justice was not the same for everyone even if they are native to the United States as what happened at the trial any black was treated like a white, and even not had justice among whites. We can deduce that for people in Alabama during the Great Depression not all had the same rights as citizens, but over the years this has changed a lot, we can see justice in every single person regardless of money or color, and to make a trial against someone the judge requires a lot of evidence to convict someone.
I agree with you, Karen. There is such little equality under the law at this time. Some how even with it being so unequal, people could not give up their racist way of life when a man's own life is on the line.
DeleteThe jury in the courthouse of Maycomb county determine if someone is guilty of innocent based on the skin color. Before the beginning of the trial the jury already knew that Tom was guilty because his skin color.
Delete"I know, and lots of 'em probably deserved it, too but in the absence of eye-witnesses there's always a doubt, sometimes only the shadow of a doubt. The law says 'reasonable doubt,' but I think a defendant's entitled to the shadow of a doubt. There's always the possibility, no matter how improbable, that he's innocent." P: 294 L:22
ReplyDeleteJem was asking his father about the trial, he was curious to know who chooses the jury and why the people in maycomb can't choose them. Jem felt very sad to learn that the judge declare Tom guilty even though they didn't had enough evidence against him. What surprised more to Scout during talks with his father was that a woman cannot be part of a jury.
During this period of time people were only judged by the deductions that the jury had, or what they believed, they dont demand evidence and that was the biggest reason why people guilty or innocent were judged equally, when a clean and a clear evidence was needed to convict a person. Some occasion they convict people to death just because they thought that they were guilty.
Is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? During the great depression justice was not the same for everyone even if they are native to the United States as what happened at the trial any black was treated like a white, and even not had justice among whites. We can deduce that for people in Alabama during the Great Depression not all had the same rights as citizens, but over the years this has changed a lot, we can see justice in every single person regardless of money or color, and to make a trial against someone the judge requires a lot of evidence to convict someone.
When Scout found out that a woman cannot be on a jury I felt that she was confused. It must be harder for her to understand why they can't be on it, because she's a tomboy. She also doesn't consider herself girly or ladylike and she could have wondered if being a tomboy was an exception for women to be on a jury.
Delete“But lots of folks have been hung—hanged—on circumstantial evidence,” said Jem. page 294
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is explaining to Jem that he believes that there should be more evidence to support each sides testimony before a conclusion is made. Jem then says there have been lots of verdicts made based on circumstantial evidence. Tom’s trial was based mostly on what each person said happened on that night. Mayella said he harmed her, while Tom said she kissed him. There was no evidence of any kind to support either side, but there was no evidence to go against them either. Atticus also kept asking about any doctors that were involved to determine how bad the injuries were, since there was no doctor involved there was no proof that Mayella had been hurt.
I believe that before the jury comes to a decision, there should be hard facts and evidence that supports each side of the story. I feel that when “he said this” or “she said that” is the only kind of evidence in a case, then the case should be postponed until more facts are found. In courthouses today, jurors just have to say whether they think the defendant is guilty or not. I wish that a jury would have to explain why they chose their answer and use other evidence from the case to back it up. The theme in this chapter is justice under the law. There was no justice in this case, because the jury only believed Bob Ewell, because of his skin color. Tom was found guilty not because of any facts, but because of racism in the courthouse. If there had been facts against the Ewells that supported Tom, then the outcome could have been way different.
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ReplyDelete“This was not good enough for Jem. ‘No Sir, they oughta do away with juries. He wasn’t guilty in the first place and they said he was.’” Chapter 23 Page 295
In this chapter, Jem is awestruck by the verdict of the trial. He just cannot rationalize why they would convict Tom, when there is so much evidence supporting him.
A few years ago, there was a case that was brought back to court about an American girl named Amanda Knox, who was accused of murdering her British roommate, Meredith Kercher, while studying in Italy. Originally, Knox was convicted of homicide and was sentenced to 26 years in prison. Knox was convicted with very little evidence proving that she did anything wrong, just like Tom Robinson. However, in 2009, Knox’s conviction was reversed. Although these cases were very far apart, both defendants were convicted with little proof.
This scene has to do with both the damage done by racism, and how there is inequality for some under the law. The jury on Tom’s trial consisted of solely middle-aged white males. This jury was extremely biased and this impacted the final verdict of this case. These men are very racist, and rather than interpreting the given facts, they looked no farther than the color of his skin.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/world/europe/amanda-knox-defends-herself-in-italian-court.html?pagewanted=all
Great text-to-world connection Kathryn. It is upsetting to think how many people have been convicted in the past for something that they have not done. Precious time in life can just get thrown into a cell when there is a bias jury. The same thing happened to Tom even though they didn't have a lot of evidence he still got convicted because of the racism and segregation at that point in time.
DeleteThat is very true. Both Amanda and Tom were convicted due to speculation instead of fact. Your final paragraph made me think if it is possible to have an unbiased jury. We make judgments about people so easily and with little knowledge of who they are.
DeleteJem and I didn't think it entertaining…. Atticus discovered how deeply frightened we were. He tempted with Jem with a new football magazine one night; when he saw Jem flip the pages and toss it aside, he said, “What is bothering you, son?” Chapter 23, page 292
ReplyDeleteIn these scene, Scout and Jem are talking about the threat Mr. Gilmer gave Atticus. They say that they want him to carry a gun with him but he does not want to. They are afraid of something might happen to their dad.
If I were Scout or Jem I would be more than frightened. The children are so afraid that Mr. Ewell is going to hurt Atticus because he threatened him. Atticus is not afraid, demonstrating that he has empathy. Atticus might not find it afraid but the kids do.
The theme that connects with this scene is the importance of home and family. Not much frightens Atticus, and he tries to keep his own problems to himself. He realizes that the children are afraid of Bob Ewell, and he tries to calm them down by telling them that Mr. Ewell is all bark and no bite.
“This was not good enough for Jem. ‘No Sir, they oughta do away with juries. He wasn’t guilty in the first place and they said he was.’” Page 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Jem is explaining to Atticus how there should not be juries in court. He thinks this because Tom was not guilty yet almost all of the jurors found Tom guilty. Atticus explains to him that no matter what if its a white mans words against a black man, the white man is going to win.
Today there are some wrongful convictions that happen every once in a while. A man or woman is convicted of something that he/she did not do. In many cases they end up in jail and some even face the death penalty. It is very similar to Tom Robinson’s case. He was falsely accused of rape and now faces life or death. The difference is, that in real life these people are mainly just falsely accused. While in Tom’s case he is being accused because of his race. It is really shocking to see that these false convictions happen often in real life too.
This connects to the theme of inequality under the law and also the damage done by racism. First, the jury really shows how unequal the law was back then. With a man with his life on the line, the jurors are still very racist and vote him guilty just because of his race. This has to do with the damage done by racism because Tom is facing life or death just because of the racist society in Maycomb.
“ In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Page 295.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus is telling Jem how the law works in Maycomb and how a black person can’t win against a white person. Atticus knows that it is not fair and so does Jem so Atticus is telling Jem that its just how life is.
I agree with the lesson that Atticus is telling Jem although I hate that he is true. Today there is still some racism that dwells within some people. Although the amount of racism is not nearly as significant as it was in the 1930s it still exists. Atticus seems to be one of a few people who are not racist and I respect him for that, plus he is a good father.
This scene has to do with the damage dealt by racism and justice under the law in the United States. As Atticus said In our courts… the white man always wins, which just shows you that the justice system back then was corrupted and one sided. This shows damage dealt by racism again as in what Atticus said, the white man always wins, which should definitely not be the case.
Nice way to connect to the damage done by racism. You made a nice lesson in your quote, and I understand why you agree on what he said. It is a valid point, especially on the time this took place.
Delete"According to Miss Stephanie Crawford, however, Atticus was leaving the post office when Mr. Ewell approached him, cursed him, spat on him, and threatened to kill him." page 291.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Scout is narrating what Miss Stephanie said to her about what happened to Atticus. During the whole time of the trial and the time leading up to it, Atticus has shown courage and was able to pull through the trial. Not many people in the world today have the traits that Atticus contains. It is hard to truly stand up for the person who is thought less of and try to defend them.
This ties into the theme of the true definition of courage, because Atticus has shown that all throughout the second half of the book, which includes the time leading up to the trial, and the actual trial itself.
Great connection. Atticus is definitely an example of a truly courageous man. This is a great example of that.
DeleteI agree with you that Atticus is a type of person who is hard to come by in society today. He is extremely courageous unlike many other people in Maycomb.
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ReplyDelete“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Page 295.
In this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem how there is proper form of law, and how the law is handled in Maycomb. In the small town of Maycomb black people are never proven innocent because racism stands in the way.
Although it might now be what Jem wants to hear, it is the reality that he must come to in the transition from a boy to a young adult. Many situations in our world today such as the Ferguson trial, Trayvon Martin case, and the death of Eric Garner, all resulted in the death of a black man. Not only did every black man die, but all the white killers, got away with what they did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-xHqf1BVE4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
The theme that connects to this scene is damage done by racism. Although all the information that was collected could clearly lead people to believe that Bob Ewell beat his own child, the jury still votes the black guy, Tom Robinson, to be guilty. Tom Robinson’s family has to suffer without him because the whites purposefully threw away his life, any without sorrow, grief, or understanding.
“It ain't right. He didn't kill anybody even if you was guilty. He didn't take anybody's life.” Page 293
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Scout asks her father what will happen to Tom if he loses his appeal. Atticus replies that Tom will be put to the chair. Jem’s ears seem to perk up at this and it leads him to mutter this out.
Although Jem does make a good point, it is so much more complicated than that in the justice system. Even today, people are put to death for crimes that didn’t involve any deaths. There are pros and cons to it that are still debated today. For example, it does help make murder and other capital offenses more and more rarer because people are scared of it. On the other hand, killing someone for something that they may or may not have done is still murder. Think of all the innocent people who die every year who were wrongly accused of a crime! I mean, not everyone in prison is guilty, the legal system isn’t perfect.
This brings me to the main theme that connects to this. Is there really justice under the law system of the United States? If there are innocent people dying for crimes they didn’t do, then I would say no. Unfortunately, there will always be human error, but that can be decreased to a point where it is less than where it is now. Now, the jury usually is made of our own peers but there are still people who will be prejudice toward the suspect. That is something that we can change; the racist men and women in America should not be able to serve in the jury. Especially if one of the people involved is of a different race.
“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Ch.23 pg. 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is explaining to Jem about how the law works. People are not fair and it makes some people lose their minds. Atticus gave Jem a good lesson on white people and racism because as he gets older, he will see it more often.
I strongly agree with Atticus because racism is everywhere. No matter where you are, it’s there whether you notice it or not. As me being from a hispanic ethnic, I notice some people look at me differently. Many people from their own ethnicity are racist to themselves too. I do get jokes thrown at me and sometimes cruel comments from people, even from some fellow hispanics. It could because I play football and not soccer or because I hang out with people from a different race or because English is my primary language and not Spanish. Racism is a disease that spreads like wildfire.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Even though Tom was not guilty of the crime he was accused of, the jurors decided to make their biased decision and announce Tom guilty.
I agree that there is still racism today and it is not just between blacks and whites. It happens to people of all different races. I think that if there were not just all white men on the jury then it would be a lot less biased and more fair.
Delete“There’s something in our world that makes a men lose their heads-they couldn’t be fair if they tried. In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.”
ReplyDeletepage 295
This is a scene when Atticus is discussing with Jem about the law in Maycomb. Atticus was telling Jem that he was the juror at the trial, Tom would have been a freeman. Atticus wanted to explain to Jem the different between white and black in reality.
Today in our world, there are still some white people who are racist and don’t think equally to black people. And white people try to win by power against black people, but now we have a laws and in trial, they wouldn’t let someone be guilty just because that person’s skin color or culture.
The theme that connect to this theme is the damage done by racism. Atticus was doing his best to defend Tom, but because of power of white people and black people weren’t respected. Just because of Tom Robbinson’s skin color, he is guilty and will get death penalty.
“As you grow older, you’ll see white men cheat black men every day of your life, but let me tell you something and don’t you forget it--whenever a white man does that to a black man, no matter who he is, how rich he is, or how fine a family he comes from, that white man is trash.” P295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem and Scout that no matter who that white man is, if he cheats a black man, he is trash. Atticus is a strong believer in the idea that all men are created equal. He wants to ensure that his children carry on his beliefs throughout their lives.
Atticus Finch is a good father. He sets a good example for his children, always keeping in mind what they see him as, and keeping himself as the ideal role model. Atticus reminds me of John Walton, the father of 4 kids in a T.V. show I used to watch when I was younger. John Walton is a hardworking honest man who is a fantastic role model for his children, just like Atticus.
The theme most represented in this scene is the importance of home and family? I don’t think Atticus expected to win the trial involving Mayella Ewell because his defendant was a black man. All the people living in Maycomb knew Tom would be convicted because a black winning over a white in such a huge case was unheard of. Yet Atticus still tried his best for himself, and for his children. His children would be watching and it was important for them to know Atticus was the opposite of the trash he spoke of on page 295.
‘In our courts, when its a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always win. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Chapter 23 page 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem how the law works in maycomb and how its unfair. Jem is too young to know about racism so Atticus is giving him a good life lesson about life during the great depression. He tells Jem that not everything was fair but you just had to deal with it.
I agree with Atticus telling his son about racism because Jem was going to find out some time so its better he learned it from his father rather than learning it the hard way. It is better for Jem to find out sooner rather than later.
The text to theme connection is the effect of racism. Under the constitution every man has the right to have a trail in front of his peers that have something in common with him. Tom did not receive that because he was judged based on his race. Because of racism Tom Robinson was wrongly convicted.
Liam I agree with you because you're right, not everything in life is fair, and people will encounter hardships and setbacks, however, eventually you'll just have to deal with it.
DeleteI agree with Liam and Sonny because there are so many important lessons in life that kids should be taught from their parents are someone important in life. However, I think Jem is old enough that he already understands a lot of the racism that takes place in Maycomb.
Delete“‘That’s what I thought, too,’ he said at last, ‘when I was your age. If there’s just one kind of folks, why can’t they get along with each other? If they’re all alike, why do they go out of their way to despise each other? Scout, I think I’m beginning to understand something. I think I am beginning to understand why Boo Radley’s stayed shut up in that house all this time. . . it’s because he wants to stay inside.’” Chapter 23 Page 304.
ReplyDeleteHere, Jem is talking to Scout about how he doesn’t understand why there is so much racial tension in the world. He believes that we are all a part of the human race, and despite our differences in appearance, we should all learn to respect one another.
Today, there is still a large gap between races, and racial tension is still present in society. A few years back, there was a controversial case that took place in Sanford, Florida. George Zimmerman, a member of a neighborhood watch service, shot 18 year old, Trayvon Martin, to death in a gated-off community. Zimmerman testified saying that Martin had attacked him, while others believe that this was not the case. Zimmerman also stated that Martin looked suspicious because he was wearing a hoodie over his head. Cases such as this one have become increasingly common in our world today. Just as Tom’s race played a role in the outcome of this trial, it is arguable that Zimmerman racially profiled Martin because he was a skeptical-looking African American teenager.
This scene represents the damage done by racism. It is because of this racism that Jem is angry. He doesn’t understand why people can’t live together in unison. In some ways, Jem represents a younger Atticus. He has similar views regarding racism and discrimination. He looks beyond skin color, which many people in Maycomb are incapable of doing.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-shooter-teenager-gun/story?id=16000239
But when he noticed us dragging around the neighborhood, not eating, taking little interest in our normal pursuits, Atticus discovered how deeply frightened we were. He tempted Jem with a new football magazine one night; when he saw Jem flip the pages and toss it aside, he said, “What’s bothering you, son?”
ReplyDeleteJem came to the point: “Mr. Ewell.”
“What has happened?”
“Nothing’s happened. We’re scared for you, and we think you oughta do something about him.”
Atticus smiled wryly. “Do what? Put him under a peace bond?”
“When a man says he’s gonna get you, looks like he means it.” p.292
This scene is between Jem and Atticus, and it shows how Jem is scared for Atticus because Atticus was threatened by Bob Ewell.
I think that the theme relating to this scene is the importance of home and family. It is clear that Jem loves his father and cares deeply for him. Jem is scared after a little threat from a drunken man towards his father, and his father is a brave man. Atticus has always been a wonderful dad to Jem and Scout, and there’s proof of it when his children show so much love and respect for him.
There are many times when I am scared for my father, for example, once he was with me in the city, and a scary man started banging on our car. I was terrified by the eccentric man, and my father caused my terror to increase once he got out of the car and told the man to stop. In the end, all was well, and my respect increased when I saw how brave my father reacted.
Here is an article to read more about bravery and the love and importance of home and family:
http://www.ocfusa.org/articles/unconditional-love-father/#.VRNJh5PF9tI
“As you grow older, you’ll see white men cheat black men every day of your life, but let me tell you something and don’t you forget it--whenever a white man does that to a black man, no matter who he is, how rich he is, or how fine a family he comes from, that white man is trash.” page 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus tells his kids that any white man that insults a black man is a jerk and an awful role model.
Atticus is similar to Thomas Jefferson in the way that they both believe that all men are created equally. The fact that our Founding Fathers were not able to enforce equality of all men still shocks me today. Our nation was founded based on the belief that all men are created equally, however, look at our society today. There are still racists out there and there is nothing we can do about it.
The theme the most demonstrated in this chapter is the importance of home and family. Atticus did not enter the court room with high hopes but, he gave the case his all. Even though Atticus didn't enter the trial with a good feeling, he still showed his kids the phenomenal role model he is.
“If you had been on that jury, son, and eleven other boys like you, Tom would be a free man… In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Page 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is talking to Jem about Tom being found guilty and how the court system right now isn’t fair for the black man.
In contrast to today, during the Great Depression in Maycomb county, people were very racist and prejudiced towards Blacks, and that is clear to see based on the outcome of the Tom Robinson case. Luckily, today, while racism hasn’t been completely abolished, in our courts today, everybodies word is looked at as equal, and won’t receive judgement based on the race of the person whose word it is.
The theme that connects to this scene is, is there really justice for all under the law in the United States? While clearly, at this point in history there is not justice for all under law in the United states, this quote shows hope for future generations. Atticus talks about how if it was a jury of twelve boys like Jem, Tom would be free. This shows that the current generation of kids will grow up to be fair racially tolerant people who will be able to make just decisions in court.
“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” Page 295.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is explains to Jem how the law works in Maycomb. Black people in their town are never proven innocent because of the racism.
I agree with the lesson Atticus is teaching Jem in this scene. He is teaching Jem that not everything in life is right or fair but it is just how things are. It’s important that Jem knows this so he can deal with disappoints and the unexpected situations that Jem with face in his life.
The theme that connects to this scene is damage done by racism. Even though there wasn’t any evidence that could prove Tom Robinson guilty, he was proven guilty. This is because in such a racist town like Maycomb, a white mans word really does sircom a black man’s. Now that Tom is convicted, his wife and daughter will have to live on their own.
I hate how this quote can still be applied to today's court system. A person is more likely to be convicted of a crime if they are black. There have probably been many convictions such as Tom's that occurred in this time period and before, that happened because a white man’s word was valued more so than a black mans was.
Delete“ I’ll tell you why, she said. Because-- he-- is--trash, that’s why you can’t play with him.” (Page 301)
ReplyDeleteIn this section, Scout was saying how she wanted to bring Walter Cunningham home for dinner when school starts. Aunt Alexandra immediately explained to her why she was not allowed to do that.
Throughout the book we were able to get to know Aunt Alexandra. We have learned that she is very serious about the family name. What I don’t understand is why she would tell Scout that she can’t be friends with Walter. Scout gets really upset when Aunt Alexandra says this, she even starts crying. I read an article about a young girl who was not allowed to go to a sleepover because the little girl hosting the sleepover was black. She really wanted to go but her father would not let her. He did not want her going there and acting like them. That was the same way that Aunt Alexandra was. This time it was not because of race but because of how the Cunninghams lived. She said she didn’t want Scout picking up any bad habits from them.
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The theme that goes best with this section is the importance of home and family. Aunt Alexandra’s obsession with making sure the family name stays perfect sometimes blinds her from what is really important. Atticus and Aunt Alexandra have very different parenting styles. Atticus wants Scout to be kind to Walter and does not mind her being friends with him. He even scolded her for making fun of him last time he came over. On the other hand, Aunt Alexandra didn’t even want Walter coming over to the house
There’s something in our world that makes men lose their heads—they couldn’t be fair if they tried. In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins. They’re ugly, but those are the facts of life.” page 295
ReplyDeletethis scene is when Atticus tells Jem about the reason why he lost the trial even though he had more evidence of not guilty than guilty.
Sadly even still now in the world, this quote is true. It has become better but sadly most times the white man wins. But now, there are cases when the black man wins because of the fairness of trials now.
The theme here is the damage done by racism. The reason why Atticus has lost in trial also is because of this. Back during the great depression, the white man won unless there was absolute proof of evidence in not guilty. Now we have DNA research and other types of ways to identify.
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ReplyDelete“Atticus says you can choose your friends but you sho’ can’t choose your family, an’ they’re still kin to you no matter whether you acknowledge ‘em on not, and it makes you look right silly when you don’t.”- Page 300
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Scout is having a conversation with Aunt Alexandra over Walter Cunningham. Scout finds out that it was one of the Cunninghams that was part of the jury and defended Tom Robinson and wants to thank them by inviting Water over to his house but Aunt Alexandra disagrees. She comments on this idea saying that even if he was related to them she would still not like it if Scout were to spend a lot of time with him. After hearing this Jem joins into the conversation saying the above quote.
I can agree to this scene. I agree with what Atticus has told Jem because your family only wants what’s best for you, even if they don’t always show it. It is family who is always there to support you. I disagree with Aunt Alexandra’s thought of treating Walter Cunningham with disgrace if he was actually part of their family.
The theme that is represented in this scene is the importance of home and family. Aunt Alexandra is very protective over Scout and Jem and only wants what’s best for them but she doesn’t always have the right approach to situations like these. I believe her pride of her family contributes in her actions, for she wants to be seen as respectable rather than “trash”.
I agree with you Joanna. I never agree with what Aunt Alexandra has to say. It seems as if she always has to be right and feels that she needs to control the kids. Scout has the right intentions on thanking the Cunningham family and inviting Walter over. Aunt Alexandra tries to change Scout and Jem into being people they aren't. I agree with your theme choice, as well. Aunt Alexandra thinks she doing what's best for the kids, but I feel like she only "stunting their growth" and not allowing them to develop into the people they are meant to be.
Delete“There’s nothing more sickening than a low-grade white man who’ll take advantage of a Negro’s ignorance. Don’t fool yourselves- it’s all adding up and one of these days we’re going to pay the bill for it. I hope it’s not in your children’s time.” page 296
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus, Jem and Scout are discussing the justice system. Jem doesn’t understand why changes can’t be made immediately. Atticus is trying to reinforce the idea of equality to Jem and Scout; telling them that you are a bad person based on how you treat people, not what color your skin is.
I think that the life lesson Atticus was teaching his children is very important. He states that a man needs to be responsible for his actions and behavior. Wealth, social standing, skin color, and family name does not give anyone the right to treat another poorly.
..."In our courts, when it's a white man's word against a black man's, the white man always wins. They're ugly, but those are the facts of life." Pg. 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus tries to explain to Jem the reason why Tom was found guilty even though there is no evidence to prove it.
The point Atticus is trying to make is that the only way times will change is if people change. The jury determined Tom's fate. If there were a jury of people during our time period, Tom Robinson would be found not guilty, no doubt. It's important for Jem to know that Tom was only found guilty because of how people viewed him and his race. Atticus had to explain that it was practically impossible for Tom to be proven not guilty at the trial and there wasn't much Atticus could do to influence the jury.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Since Maycomb was such a racist town, choices and viewpoints relied on how the town saw people; blacks in particular. This quote shows hope for future generations and how things can hopefully change. It all starts with people accepting those who are different and understanding that we are all equal, regardless of race.
“‘If you had been on that jury, son, and eleven other boys like you, Tom would be a free man,’ said Atticus. ‘So far nothing in your life has interfered with your reasoning process. Those are twelve reasonable men in everyday life, Tom’s jury, but you saw something come between them and reason.”’ Page 295.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is explaining to Jem why the jury convicted Tom. It was because their opinions got the better of them.
I agree with Atticus. As a child, you aren’t exposed much to the world, so you form very view opinions, which is helpful in reasoning; it isn’t influenced by your personal beliefs. As an adult, however, opinions get in the way of reason, which can lead to unfairness. For instance, in the political world, adults are usually strictly a democrat or a republican. As a supporter of a party, adults very rarely see any good in the actions of the opposing party, which interferes with the function of the government since they can’t agree on much. Even if the actions of the opposing party are obviously beneficial to the country, they try to see negativity in it simply because they are loyal to their own party and have developed negative opinions toward the other.
This scene can fall under the themes of the harm done by racism and the difficult transition into adulthood. Racism is what got in between Tom’s jury and reason. Their personal beliefs toward African-Americans is what influenced their decision, not the evidence provided, which is unfair to Tom and his family. If people like Jem were on the jury, ones, especially children, whose opinions wouldn’t influence their decisions, Tom would be a free man.
I agree with most of your comments. However, I don't think that adults are that firmly decided when it comes to being a democrat or a republican. There have been many instances in recent elections where adults switched parties because they felt the opposite party more closely reflected their views. I think that the views of the democrats and republicans change over time because they take into consideration their own experiences and their feelings about local and national events.
Delete“Too proud to fight, you nigger loving bastard?” Page 291
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Bob Ewell stopped Atticus in the middle of the street, and spat in his face. Angry at the fact that Atticus made no violent response, he asked him this.
I can relate to this. Being in a large family with lots of brothers, I can relate to a number of times that we have fought and said things to provoke each other. Although our comments would seem rather tame compared to what Bob curses at Atticus, the intent to fight is the same. I think that all people that have a sibling of the same gender as them that is around the same age as them can relate to this.
This can connect to the theme of the damage done by racism. Bob Ewell is furious with the fact that Atticus attempted to let Tom go free, and wanted to fight. I think that he was also influenced by the vast amounts of alcohol that was likely in his system. The fact that he is so enraged by the mere fact that Atticus defended a black man over a white man just shows how racist he is. The town of Maycomb is a terrible place to be if you are not a racist person who has no value for any life that is not white.
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ReplyDelete“In our courts, when it’s a white man’s word against a black man’s, the white man always wins.” Chapter 23 page 295
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Jem is aggravated that Tom is not found automatically innocent. Jem knows that Tom is not guilty and did not do it and Atticus knows it to. Atticus is trying to explain to him that in court a white man’s word is better than a black man’s. Although it is ugly it is the truth Atticus tells Jem.
I find this quote extremely disturbing especially in this situation. The fact that the jury cannot see that the Ewell’s word is completely unreliable is unbelievable. Bob Ewell is a drunk who beats his children and Mayella Ewell only completed 2 years of school. The jury is only going with their word because they are white and Tom is black. In this scenario the way the jury is handling this is completely wrong. Even if they were racist and did not like Tom they should have taken his word just as seriously if not more serious than the Ewell’s. This shows ignorance in the United States court system and deeply frustrates me. Everyone should have an equal say. Today everyone’s word is treated equally no matter what color your skin is. Also the jury would not base their decision on the word of someone, they would need medical evidence in order to make their decision. With the technology that we have today and that strides we have made towards racial equality, Tom would be found innocent in a second.
This quote connects to the damage done by racism. Racism was so bad in the 1930’s that people in the court would not take a black man’s word seriously when it was against a white man’s even after he had sworn to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. People thought so little of African Americans because it is what their parents taught them was right. Bob Ewell spit on Atticus and threatened to kill him because he was defending Tom Robinson. Now do you think Bob’s kids are going to grow up and accept other races? No because that is not the example Bob is leading. He is not the only one, all the people in the mob in chapter 16 are clearly not setting good examples for their children either. The damage this does to a society is unfathomable, good hard working men like Tom are put on trial for a crime with no evidence against them, just the word of another man. All in all this country has come a long way in the court system.
I find it disturbing as well. The jury's strong negative opinions toward blacks caused them to completely disregard how unreliable the prosecution witnesses were. That's unjust to Tom and the African-American community.
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ReplyDeleteChapter 23: “As you grow older, you’ll see white men cheat black men every day of your life, but let me tell you something and don’t you forget it--whenever a white man does that to a black man, no matter who he is, how rich he is, or how fine a family he comes from, that white man is trash.” (Page 295)
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus explains how white men use or take advantage of black men every day. This hurts Atticus since he believes that all men were created equal. Atticus has always treated black men the same as white men and wants to have his kids do the same. If his children treat everyone equally and then there children do and so on he can ensure that they will all know how to treat black and white people everywhere.
I recently found a great article that talks about fathers just like Atticus who made a big impact on their childrens lives and others also. The list includes Brad Pitt, Warren Buffet and more. Both of these men have given millions of dollars to help the less fortunate. Just like Atticus they are all for the best for the children. Just like Atticus they are doing a great job at creating a path for their kids so they can become successful and help others just like their fathers are. All three of them are doing a great thing and are fantastic role models. If their children can follow in their footsteps than the future is bright.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tara-stiles/great-role-models-famous_b_217859.html?
The two themes represented are the importance of home and family and is their really justice for all in the United States? Atticus was not expecting to win the case and that is because their isn't justice for all in the United States. Tom Robinson is a colored man and in this historical period it was unheard of for a colored man to win a case in court. Atticus is a big family guy. His kids look up to him and try to learn from them. Atticus strengthens the bond every time he does something courageous because his kids really admire that. Atticus does the best for his family as he possibly could.
“Jem, see if you can stand in Bob Ewell’s shoes for a minute. I destroyed his last shred of credibility at that trial, if he had any to begin with. The man had to have some kind of comeback, his kind always does. So if spitting in my face and threatening me saved Mayella Ewell one extra beating, that’s something I’ll gladly take.” Page 292-293
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Jem is very disturbed and scared that Bob Ewell is going to hurt Atticus because he spit on Atticus’ face in town. Atticus just stood there when Mr. Ewell did this and he took it. Atticus explains to Jem why Mr. Ewell did this and convinces Jem not to be scared anymore.
In our society today, a phrase that is commonly used is “don’t judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes.” I think that Atticus is trying to explain this to Jem by telling him to consider Mr. Ewell’s situation. There are times in every person’s life when they do not understand why someone acted a certain way or said something. When I was little, I was taught this phrase and put myself in the other person’s shoes when faced with these kinds of situations.
Themes that are portrayed in this scene are the true definition of courage, the importance of home and family, and damage done by racism. Atticus displays what real courage is when he does not react to Mr. Ewell spitting on him. He does not take action because he wants to let Bob take his anger out on him as opposed to Mayella. Atticus doesn’t have a violent response because he can’t, instead Atticus realizes he is helping Mayella but taking her punishment by Mr. Ewell. Atticus explains why he let Mr. Ewell spit on him to Jem and shows him his reasoning. By this, he is teaching Jem an important lesson and how to act in certain situations. Due to racism, Atticus and the Finch family are not treated respectfully at all. They are being terrorized and criticized by the people of Maycomb because Atticus is defending a black man. This is exposing the young children, Jem and Scout, to the effects of racism at a young age.
“...you sho’ can’t choose your family, an’ they’re still kin to you no matter whether you acknowledge ‘em or not, and it makes you look right silly when you don’t. Chapter 23
ReplyDelete-In this scene Aunt Alexandra was trying to explain that if Walter Cunningham was part of their family, she wouldn't let him go inside of the house because he’s different. Also Jem said this to Aunt Alexandra after he heard Atticus say it.
In my opinion I think that this is something that happens a lot in our world. Nowadays people have more problems with their family and they don’t like some of their family members. I mean they're your family and you don’t get to pick your family you should accept them no matter how they are.
The theme that connects to this scene is the importance of family. Families need to accept each other, families are stronger when the are close. Family should always help you get out of troubles and
they will always guide you through the right path. To support you when you're not feeling well and in the bad and good days. If I was in their place I wouldn't try to ignore my own family or discriminate them because you will always see them and then you will regret doing what you did.
” … So if spitting in my face and threatening me saved Mayella Ewell one extra beating , that’s something I’ll gladly take.He had to take it out on somebody and I’d rather it be me than that houseful of children” Pg 293
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Atticus is explaining to Jem why he’d rather get then the kids get hurt.
If I were Atticus I would’ve thought the same way . I could never live with myself knowing that someone is beating their own kids just to get rid other their stress or anger. I feel that Atticus showed his children what a true hero is ,and what it is to be a real man . Because now a days parents beat their kids as pleasure , and sadly those kids stay quiet because they live in fear that if they do tell someone . They would get even more beaten then before.
This scene connects to the importance of home and family. This is because family is where you’re supposed to feel safe and not scared of . Many kids want to kill themselves because they think and know that they will have better lives dead than to be alive and get beaten everyday of their young lives.
This quote is definitely my favorite one for this chapter! It's a shame that Atticus wasn't able to say this very statement in court, that would just awe the jury.
DeleteOn PG# 291, Ms. Stephanie Crawford states, “Atticus was leaving the post office when Mr. Ewell approached him, cursed him, spat on him, and threatened to kill him. Even then, Atticus didn’t bat an eye, just took out his handkerchief and wiped his face”.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Ms. Stephanie Crawford explains to Scout and Jem how their father Atticus was approached by his rival in court, Bob Ewell, father of the allegedly raped Mayella Ewell.
The scene shows a great example of the theme of the true definition of courage.