In this chapter, on page 262, Mr. Gilmer questions Tom about what happened on November 21st. Gilmer treats Tom like a worthless piece of trash who doesn't even matter. He calls him a 'big buck' and calls him 'boy' when he is 25 years old and is married with three kids. I find it disturbing that Gilmer uses Tom's race as an offensive technique to try and make him the bad guy in this case when Mayella and Bob Ewell's stories aren't falling into place. This plays into the theme of damage done by racism, that a man can go into a court of law and make a patronize a full grown man just because he is balck
I agree with you, Max. Mr. Gilmer is a racist man who should not be treating Tom Robinson like he is. Tom is a grown man with kids, most likely just like Gilmer. Atticus is so different from Gilmer, and most people in Maycomb.
I completely agree with you, Max. Gilmer should not be treating Tom like he is. Tom should be treating just like Mayella or Bob, because under the law, everyone is equal.
I agree with you that Mr. Gilmer uses vocabulary to try and belittle Tom to gain more support for Mayella. The way he treats Tom makes Tom out to be the lesser man in this case.
“Got in a fight with another man, he tried to cut me… I had to serve ‘cause I couldn’t pay the fine. Other fellow paid his’n.” Page 254
In this scene, Tom is on the witness stand being questioned by his attorney, Atticus Finch. Atticus wants to disclose the circumstances surrounding Tom’s previous time in jail. He wants to control how this information is presented to the jury. Tom testifies about his previous time in jail.
Even today, money can provide advantages in the legal system. If a defendant doesn’t have enough money, a court-appointed lawyer is provided. On the other hand, if a person can pay for their own lawyer, they can find one who is an expert and can provide a very good defense. A court-appointed lawyer would probably be working on a lot of cases and may not have a lot of resources to find evidence. A private lawyer is usually more dedicated to the case and has more resources to work with, which gives the defendant a better chance. Money can greatly help cases where the evidence is not crystal clear.
A theme that is depicted in this scene is the damage done by racism. Due to racism, Tom is not paid a sufficient amount of money for the work he does. He was put in jail because for fighting with another man. The other man was able to get out because he could pay the fine while Tom could not.
Tom is very lucky, because Atticus is his court appointed lawyer. If Tom had gotten anyone else, he might have been seen as guilty before the trial even started. Even though Atticus wasn't hired like Mr. Gilmer, he is just as dedicated as any other private lawyer would have been.
In this case, it is amazing Tom got Atticus as his lawyer. Atticus doesn't care about race. He just cares about right from wrong and letting Tom go to jail would be wrong.
“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.”
Tom Robinson says this to Atticus as he’s on the witness’ stand in this scene. He’s describing why he ran, and he says that he ran because he was afraid that he would be sent to jail, even though he didn’t do anything wrong.
In this scene, Tom Robinson expertly states how different races are treated. Although there is less discrimination and racism in our world today, it still exists. Racism is still an issue. Tom Robinson explains how he is under different stresses to which Atticus can’t relate. This causes Tom Robinson’s life and actions to be different than how a white person may live or react. Changes in lifestyle and reactions vary among different groups of people, even today.
This scene also shows how unjust the American legal system was during this time period, and how it can be unjust today. Tom Robinson knew that he did nothing wrong, but he runs away anyway because he knows that he may still be prosecuted. He directly says that if one is African American, they are scared. Whites were not scared. This shows the injustice going on because African Americans didn’t have, and still don’t in many cases, security and safety from the law. They couldn’t trust that the law would protect them even if they didn’t do anything wrong. (Pg. 261, Paragraph 11)
I agree Abby. It is clear in this quote that blacks were treated much worse than whites back then. Obviously this difference would contribute to Tom running away when he saw Bob Ewell.
I Agree with analysis of the quote that you chose. There is so much racism in the community that many blacks fear for their lives. Tom Robinson does not run because he is guilty, he runs because he is afraid.
Mr. Gilmer says this to Tom Robinson as Tom is on the witness’ stand. Tom had described why he did extra chores for Mayella, and Tom had said that he did it because he felt sorry for Mayella since she didn’t get much help from her family. Mr. Gilmer used Tom’s excuse to further prosecute him saying that a black man should not feel bad for a white woman.
This connects to our society today because sometimes African Americans get less opportunities than the rest of the people. Mr. Gilmer explains how African Americans should never be able to surpass a white person’s life. This means that all of their opportunities must be cut off. This still happens today. Sometimes, African Americans are discriminated against just because of their race. For example, an African American may not get a job even if they are qualified for it. It is really sad that some groups of people don’t get the same chances to better their lives as others. It contradicts the theory of the American dream.
In this scene, the extensive damage by racism is shown. Mr. Gilmer directly expresses that a black man should not feel remotely bad for a white woman under any circumstances. This shows how damaging racism has been towards African Americans because their lives were automatically seen as lower than the rest of the people’s were. African Americans were never allowed to have a better life than a white person, no matter how hard the African American worked, or how little the white worked. This is a horrible cycle in which no African American could move up in. They were stuck where they were. (Pg. 264, Paragraph 2)
I disagree with you in the sense that I believe our world has become better about treating everybody equally. Of course, there is still a lot of racism, but nowadays, I believe it is not as severe because of the laws set in place to protect people, and because African Americans and other races have many more rights. Even if the social aspect is not much improved, politically, everybody is treated more justly.
I agree with you, Abby Wilson. The world has really come a long way with treating everyone equally. Although, it is not perfect, we have really improved as a nation, as a country (#MERICA).
“‘Then you ran?’ ‘I sho’ did, suh.’ ‘Why did you run?’ ‘I was scared, suh.’ ‘Why were you scared?’ ‘Mr. Finch, if you were a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.’”
In this part from the story, Atticus is questioning Tom regarding his behavior the night Mayella’s rape was reported. Tom says that once Mr. Ewell was looking into the room from the window, and he had begun screaming, Tom fled. When Atticus asks why, Tom responds by saying that he was scared because it was not the ideal position for a black man to get caught in, even though he hadn’t done anything to Mayella. He says that if Atticus was black and he was in the same position, he would have been scared too.
The case in Ferguson, Missouri has many similarities to the case depicted in this story. Michael Brown and Tom Robinson were both African American men, yet the gap between both cases was nearly 84 years. Michael Brown’s friend, Dorian Johnson, who was a witness to Michael’s murder, stated that the officer had fired several shots at the two of them, even though neither was armed and supposedly, they were not causing any harm to anyone else. The police officer claimed that both boys proposed a threat to him, so he fired several shots. The two boys fled from the scene because they were both stricken with fear, and they didn’t know if they would live to see another day. Tom Robinson had also run away not because he was guilty, but because he feared for his life, just as Dorian and Michael had. This scene is very similar to a more recent case from this summer described by an eyewitness. This is a link to see a video of Dorian’s interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXTZOR-lHw0
This specific scene from the book relates to the theme of the damage done by racism. Maycomb county is a very racist society down south during the 1930s. Tom ran because he was terrified of what would happen to him if he stayed. He predicted that he would end up in court just as he had. Tom feared for his life because the given scene could be perceived as the thought that Tom was advancing on Mayella, when really, it was just the opposite.
I agree with you Kathryn, because if Tom had stayed in the Ewell home Mr. Ewell would have surely hurt him, but since he fled, it makes him look like he was running from the scene. If I were Tom, I'm not sure what I would've done. Both decisions would probably have ended up in court either way.
I agree with you Kathryn. It is unfortunate that because of Tom's circumstances he felt his best option was to run. However, by running it looks as if he had done something wrong. It is interesting to bring up the idea of what if he had not run? Would they still be in the same situation in court that they are in now?
“Nobody said ‘that’s just their way,’ about the Ewells. Maycomb gave them Christmas baskets, welfare money, and the back of its hand. Tom Robinson was probably the only person who was ever decent to her. But she said he took advantage of her, and when she stood up, she looked at him as if he were dirt beneath her feet.” Chapter 19 Page 257.
In this quote from the story, Scout is discussing how the Ewells relied upon Maycomb county. The town provided them with welfare money, and other benefits that were not given to everyone else. Tom had said that he always helped Mayella with what she needed because he pitied her. He stated that there was never anybody to help her out, and that she was often alone at home. Yet, despite Tom’s repeated acts of decency and respect, Mayella still accused him of raping her, and she thinks of herself as being superior to him.
Even today, many people believe that they are of higher status than other minorities such as African Americans and Latinos. It doesn’t matter how much respect and dignity these minorities may possess, because some people still view themselves as being more sovereign and dominant. People today are still prejudicial and discriminatory.
This section of the story has to do with the damage done by racism. Mayella, as well as much of the white population in Maycomb county, believes that she is of higher rank than Tom and other African Americans. This town is clearly a very racist society. Although Tom is one of the few people in her life that have treated her with dignity, Mayella overlooks this and still accuses him of violating her.
I agree with you, Kathryn. Tom is truly a good person and should not be seen as less of the person that he is, based on his race. Mayella completely overlooks Tom's true kindness and accuses him of rape when he most likely, is innocent.
I agree with both Danny and Kathryn. Tom Robinson really does seem to be a good innocent man but so many people can’t see this because he is black. It’s horrible that some people see themselves as more superior to others because of their race and it’s even worse to think it’s still a problem today.
“Then you ran?” “I sho‘ did, suh.” “Why did you run?” “I was scared, suh.” “Why were you scared?” “Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” Page 261.
In this scene Atticus is questioning Tom about what he did the night that Mayella claimed to be raped. Tom says that when Mr. Ewell looked into the room and started screaming Tom ran. Tom says that he ran because he was scared and that is Atticus was in his position, he would have done the same thing.
This case can relate to the case in Ferguson. Tom is accused after he said that he was not causing any harm, same with what happened to Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson, they said that the cops started to just fire shots at them. However the cops claim that they were a threat to them. In both cases the people who were said to not be causing trouble fled the scene because they were scared.
This scene deals with the damage done by racism. During the 1930’s there were lots of communities that were racist. I think Tom ran away from the house because he didn’t want to know what would happen if he stayed, probably something very bad I guess.
“ Dill exhaled patiently. I know all that Scout. It was the way he said it made me sick, plain sick. He’s supposed to act that way,Dill, he was cross-- He didn’t act that way when--- Dill, those were his own witnesses. Well Mr. Finch didn’t act that way to Mayella and old man Ewell when he cross-examined them. The way that man called him ‘boy’ all the time an’ sneered at him, an’ looked around the jury every time he answered--- Well, dill, after all he’s just a Negro. I don’t care one speck. It ain’t right , somehow it ain’t right to do em’ that way. Middle of page 266
In this scene Dill and Scout have a conversation about how Dill feels about Mr. Gilmers actions and responses to Tom Robinsons responses. Dill feels disgusted by Mr. Gilmers reactions and responses. Mr. Gilmer calls Tom ‘boy’, look over the jury when Tom responds, and is very rude to him. In this chapter, reading about Tom you see that he is respectful, and by this we see how Mr. Gilmer acts. Just because Tom Robinson is black he treats him horribly, compared to how he treats Mr. Ewell and Mayella. Although Scout confirms that is Just Mr. Gilmers way, Dill still thinks his actions against Tom was unfair treatment.
I agree to Dills feelings and statements. The way Mr. Gilmer treats Tom in the courthouse is rude and unfair. Compared to how he treats Mr. Ewell and Mayella he treats Tom as if he were dirt trying to answer his questions. Dill his hurt that someone could treat a person like that. The treatment Tom receives lets you know how racist people can be when treating people differently. I know that Scout says its just Mr. Gilmers way , but when Atticus talked with Mayella and Mr. Ewell he was kind and not rude at all. You can really see what a person is like by how they treat people.
In this quote the main theme it connects to is the damage done by racism. Racism affects how people treated one another compared to how they treated African Americans. In the courthouse Mr. Gilmer treats Tom as if he’s nothing. While Atticus treats him with respect. Calling someone ‘boy’ and not the person's real name is disrespectful, that person no matter what race, deserves to be called by their given name. Dill become disgusted by how Mr. Gilmer treats Tom, while pleased at Atticus’ behavior. This shows how people can treat others right or how they can act disrespectfully to people who don’t deserve those people’s harmful actions and words.
Sarah, I completely agree with you. Is it really that hard for Mr. Gilmer to be at least a bit more respectful to Tom? I understand that he is trying to find him guilty, but he has no right to be rude. Atticus is polite to Mr. Ewell and Mayella even though he is defending Tom.
"Well, Dill, after all he's just a Negro." "I don't care one speck. It ain't right, somehow it ain't right to do 'em that way. Hasn't anybody got any business talking' like that--it just makes me sick." page 266
In this scene, Dill is telling Scout how he feels about the way Mr. Gilmer is questioning Tom Robinson, the black suspect for rape. Dill believes that Tom Robinson is being treated unfairly and he does not care that Tom is black. Mr. Gilmer should not treat anybody as poorly as he is treating Tom.
Tom Robinson is similar to all blacks who are discriminated against in society today. Many people today are judged by others based on the color of their skin. In the book To Kill a Mockingbird, many people believe that Tom Robinson raped Mayella Ewell. This is just because his skin is black, so people believe that he is more likely to commit a crime.
The theme that relates to this scene is the damage done by racism. During this historical period the whites believed that they were superior over the black people. If Tom Robinson was a white man accused of rape, Mr. Gilmer would treat him with more respect. Tom is telling the lawyer, Mr. Gilmer, what happened that night in his perspective, but Mr. Gilmer does not believe him. Racism does still occur but not as much as it used to. A black man would be considered equal to a white man in court today.
I completely agree with you, Cassidy. Tom Robinson is being treated very unfairly by Mr. Gilmer, just because of the color of his skin. It is a relief to know that US Law has greatly improved on racism, however, there are still some people in court that do not consider black skin equivalent to white. It is quite disturbing.
I agree with you, Mr. Gilmer would've definitely treated a white man with more respect. Despite being "equal" in the court of law, racism still occurred which is unfair to African-Americans.
"Robinson, you're pretty good at busting up chifforobes and kindling with one hand, aren't you?" "Yes, suh, I reckon so." "Strong enough to choke the breath out of a woman and sling her to the floor?" "I never done that, suh." "But are you strong enough to?" "I reckon so, suh." page 263
Mr. Gilmer questioned Tom Robinson about the strength of his good arm. He asked Tom if he could have hurt Mayella with one arm. Tom replied with yes, it's possible and Mr. Gilmer accused him of hurting her.
Mr. Gilmer twisted Tom's words into making him say that he could hurt Mayella with one arm. He manipulated him unfairly. It’s not possible for Tom to have hit Mayella with his left arm in her right eye, but the prosecutor made it seem a little more believable to think that. In the real world, a good lawyer is one who can twist words and make the defendant slip up. A lot of times it doesn’t matter who’s guilty or not, it matters how the prosecution portrays the facts. If the lawyer is convincing enough, then the jury will believe what he is saying. The theme for this scene is justice for all under the law. I believe that Tom doesn’t realize what he should say about his arm. He told the entire courtroom that he could hurt someone with one arm, making him look guilty. If I were Tom I probably wouldn’t have understood what Mr. Gilmer was trying to do either. Tom was being polite and answering all the questions truthfully with no confusion. Guilty or not, Mr. Gilmer is going to twist the facts against Tom to make sure he is convicted of the crime.
Tom Robinson shut his eyes tight. “He says you goddamn whore, I’ll kill ya.” Pg. 260
In this scene, Tom Robinson is giving his account of what transpired at the Ewell home the day he was accused of raping Mayella. In particular, he tells the court about Mr. Ewell and what he said after he saw Mayella kiss Tom on the cheek.
I’m confused about Mr. Ewell’s use of the word “whore”. I always thought that a whore was either a prostitute or a woman who sleeps around. Mayella is neither of them. She only kissed Tom and on the cheek. So, why does Mr. Ewell say she’s a whore and has such a baleful demeanor? It is obvious that Mr. Ewell considers this seemingly innocent act equivalent to the nocturnal movements of a streetwalker. He is so enraged by her iniquity that he feels he must stifle her desires. In other words, he plans to beat her. Although any father might be concerned about his daughter’s budding sexuality, his tirade is very imprudent.
The themes that connect to this scene are the importance of home and family and the damage done by racism. Despite the fact that Mr. Ewell’s actions are extreme, he does realize that his daughter has broken a serious social more by engaging in physical and social interaction with Tom. He needs to discipline her, so she will not repeat her mistake. He does this in the only way he knows how: with his fists. In a very demented way, Mr. Ewell feels he is protecting his daughter from being a social pariah. In this historical period, the mixing of races was forbidden. Mayella realizes this, but she is so overwhelmed with loneliness that she ignores her culture and kisses Tom. To be labeled a whore after this simple act is indicative of the seriousness of her “offense”.
"Well, Dill, after all he's just a Negro." "I don't care one speck. It ain't right, somehow it ain't right to do 'em that way. Hasn't anybody got any business talking' like that--it just makes me sick." page 266
In this scene Dill is explaining to Scout what he thinks of the trial. Dill says that it does not matter what color he is, it still does not give anyone the right to talk to Tom that way. It really disturbs Dill and makes him feel very sorry for Tom Robinson.
This is very similar to what racism is like in today’s world. Many African American people are discriminated against based on the color of their skin. It is the same for all types of people who are being discriminated against. Many people who are racist and saying these types of things, think that they are better than someone because of their race. People today really need to learn that we are all human and should be treated equally, no matter what race and what ethnicity we are.
This scene relates to the theme, the damage done by racism. White people in this society, and in this frame of time, thought that they were better that those who were a different race. Like we see in this scene, Tom Robinson is being talked down to by the white people who believe that he is guilty. It makes no sense why Tom would be put in this position just because of his race.
Dill is still a young child who doesn't understand racism and discrimination which is why he gets upset at the trial. He doesn't understand why Tom is treated with such disrespect. Would the world be a more fair place if we all thought like innocent, unbiased children?
"Mr. Gilmer smiled grimly at the jury. 'You're a mighty good fellow, it seems- did all this for not one penny?' 'Yes suh. I felt right sorry for her, she seemed to try more'n the rest of 'em-' 'You felt sorry for her, you felt sorry for her?' Mr. Gilmer seemed ready to rise to the ceiling.” pg. 263-264
In this scene, Mr. Gilmer thinks it is horrible that Tom Robinson, a poor black field worker, feels sorry for Mayella, a white citizen of Maycomb. It should be acceptable, considering the condition that she lives in, but in regard to the racial standards of the time, Tom's statement causes some resentment.
What I find disturbing is the way that witnesses think about Tom just because he is black. The race doesn’t show if you are more or less than the others, it is just a stereotype people use to hurt them. The fact that Tom is black doesn’t mean he is guilty, ha was just trying to help Mayella at her house. Today it stills happen and one example is the case Eric Garner who died because a with police man used a chokehold. A New York grand jury decided not to indict in the death of Eric Garner. Colored started protest against the law because of the decision of the jury. They thought that the jury make this decision because the officer was white and the victim was black. http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/10/justice/new-york-pantaleo-nypd-interview/
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Mr. Gilmer judges Tom for his skin color and doesn’t accept Tom’s apologies. If Tom was telling the truth, most of the people would continue judging him. Although, To Kill A Mockingbird is only a book it shows the true during the Great Depression. I can’t believe how people during this period could segregate others just for their race knowing that we are all humans, created in the same way.
I agree with you. Segregation has been a problem for a long time. The most well-known segregation in the United states has been racial segregation, the problem with being white or black. All separated by skin color.
“Why did you run?” “I was scared, suh.” “Why were you scared?” “Mr. Finch, if you was a n----r like me, you’d be scared, too.”
In this scene, Tom Robinson is testifying and Atticus is questioning Tom as to why he would run away after Bob Ewell showed up.
What I find disturbing is that Tom feels so scared, that he will be attacked or killed because of his race, that he doesn’t even stay to explain his side of the story to Bob Ewell. Tom realizes that if he stays in the Ewell’s house to explain he is risking his life. Racial profiling is still prevalent today. A study from 2005 shows that African American drivers are twice as likely to be arrested during a roadside pullover that white drivers. It is disgusting that we still have racism in this great country more than 70 years later.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Because of racism in Maycomb during the Great Depression, Tom feared for his life over what should have been a simple explanation to Mr. Ewell. If Tom Robinson was white, there almost surely would not have been a big problem or as severe a confrontation.
I feel Tom had every right to be scared. In that time period racism was a big deal and some racial problems lead to death of multiple people. Tom was just fearing for his life so he did what he thought was best to stay a live. If he stayed Tom might have been killed that night.
I agree Sam. It shows how big of a deal your race was back then. It is upsetting to me that Tom felt so scared that he had to sprint out of the house and felt if he had not he would be risking his life.
“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” Page 261.
In this scene, Tom Robinson is on the witness stand and Atticus is questioning him about why he ran on the day that Mayella is accusing him of rape. Tom says he was scared of going on trial and going to jail because even though he knew he did nothing wrong, he knew how he would be unjustly treated on trial.
What I find disturbing is that the law system is so unjust that an African American can be scared of going on trial for doing nothing wrong. There is still a great deal of racism in the world today but I’m curious if our law system is really just or not? We have all heard the cases like Ferguson which would show how our law system is unfair but is it generally a just system?
This scene shows how unjust the American legal system was in the 1930s. Tom Robinson ran not because he did something wrong but soulfully because he was scared of going to jail. In this quote he says that if Atticus were black like him, he would understand more and would’ve ran too. It’s horrible to think that African Americans couldn’t feel safe with their own legal system.
“Nobody said ‘that’s just their way,’ about the Ewells. Maycomb gave them Christmas baskets, welfare money, and the back of its hand. Tom Robinson was probably the only person who was ever decent to her. But she said he took advantage of her, and when she stood up, she looked at him as if he were dirt beneath her feet.” Chapter 19 Page 257
In this scene, Scout is talking about how the Ewells relied on Maycomb county. The town provided them with money and other stuff that was not given to everyone in the county. Tom had said that he always helped Mayella with what she needed because he felt bad for her. He said that there wasn't really anybody to help her out and that she was often alone at home. Although Tom showed some sympathy and quite a bit of respect, Mayella still accused him of raping her.
Even in today's world, many people believe that they are a higher and better status than other minorities such as African Americans and Hispanics. They believe that they, for no reason, should have to condescend to the level of others. It doesn't matter how much respect and dignity and discipline these minorities may have, because some people will still view themselves as being more powerful.
The theme that relates is the damage done by racism. Mayella, believes that she is better than Tom and other African Americans. Maycomb County can be a racist town. Although Tom is one of the few people in her life that have treated her with respect and kindness, Mayella forgets about this and still accuses him of raping her.
“Why did you run?’ ‘ I was scared, suh.’ ‘Why were you scared?’ ‘Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” p261
Tom Robinson is giving his testimony to Atticus and the jury during the trial. After Tom explains that Mayella came onto him, and not the other way around, Atticus asks Tom why he ran away. Tom tells Atticus that if he was a nigger, he would be scared too.
I think that Bob and Mayella’s values and virtues are contorted, warped, and crazy. Bob Ewell has no problems beating his daughter because of her interest in a black man, and Mayella is effectively sentencing that same man to death. Tom is a good man who is trying to pull himself and his family out of poverty, with a disfigured arm and half a country working against him. Tom being scared just shows that there was no justice for all under the law in the USA.
The themes conveyed in this scene are: the damage done by racism, and is there really justice for all under the law in the United States. Tom only ran from the scene of the crime (Mayella’s beating by Bob) because he was black and assumed something bad would happen to him. Tom fears conviction for a crime he did not commit, not based upon circumstantial evidence, but based on the color of his skin. At this point in American history, there was not justice for all under the law in the United States. Only white men could serve on the jury, so there was no diversity whatsoever.
"Then you ran?" "I sho’ did, suh." "Why did you run?" "I was scared, suh." "Why were you scared?" "Mr. Finch, if you were a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” page 261
In this scene Atticus was asking Tom Robinson about what were he doing the night Mayella was raped. Tom says that when Mr Ewell looked into the room from the window and he started to scream so Tom run away because he was scared. Atticus asked him why was he scared and Tom answered if he was in same situation as Tom, he would have done the something.
Today, even though there are laws to protect African American, there are people who still harm African American and disagree with the laws. Because of this many African American don’t belived that laws will help or make a safe place for them. There are a few news that some African American got shot by white police, but the person who was shot didn’t do anything. This situation is very similar to the situation of Tom Robinson.
The theme that connect to this is the damage done by racism. Tom Robinson had to run away because if he had stayed, he would have got hurt.
“ Mr.Finch if you was a nigger like me , you’d be scared too” Pg 261 In this scene Tom Robinson is explaining to Atticus why he ran out of the house when he saw Bob Ewell running towards the house . If I were Tom I would’ve stayed put and told Bob what had occurred so then the whole court thing could have not happened. Also so then he could have explained and told what truly happened so if Bob did still want to go to court he couldn’t lie and say all the things he had said in the chapter. In this scene the connection is the damage done by racism. This is because Tom wasn’t able to tell his side of the story to Bob so the only thing Bob could think and rely on was what his daughter told him. Also because of his color Bob probably inferred that he was the reason his daughter was beaten up .
I like how you stated the point and then after put yourself in the characters shoes. The connection that you made to the theme was very good, and I can agree with the connection that you made. You also made a good inference, which is what I also did too!
I disagree with you because I don’t think that Bob would have reacted well if Tom stayed. Bob wouldn’t have listened to Tom and unleashed his wrath on him and Mayella. Even if he had listened he would still make Tom go to court and lie about what happened because Bob is covering his own wrong doings.
“He guided his arm to the bible and his rubber like left hand sought contact with the black binding. As he raised his right hand, the useless one slipped off the bible and hit the clerks.” Chapter 19 page 254
In this scene Tom Robinson demonstrates his left hand is disabled. This is important because Mayella’s injuries were done by a left handed person. This was Atticus’s main argument because it proves that Tom could not commit the crime. Tom’s injury was from a accident when he was younger.
In comparison a trial today evidence of this sort would be still effective. Today we also have dna proof while in contrast at the time of Tom’s trial simpler methods had to be used.
I feel that Atticus was clever in how Tom could not commit this crime. Although we realize that the jury may not always look at the facts and be more influenced by racial thoughts.
The text to theme connection is injustice. We hope that the legal system would find the correct outcome, but injustice sometimes exists. Innocent men are sometimes wrongly convicted.
"For some reason Dill had started crying and couldn't stop; quietly at first then the sobs were heard by several people in the balcony... 'I know all that, Scout. It was the way he said it made me sick, plain sick.'" (Page 266)
In this scene, Dill begins to cry because he is upset and angry at how Mr. Gilmer was talking to and treating Tom. Him and Scout leave the court room and go outside so that Dill can relax.
I strongly agree with Dill. It seems Dill is following the opinions of Atticus, which is also what I agree with. Regardless if you dislike someone, you shouldn't talk down to them or treat them differently to make them feel like they are not valued. Today, even aside from race, some people are guilty of this. In schools, people may try to make others feel like they are beneath them, especially in an argument or between enemies.
This scene relates to the theme of "is there really justice for all under the law in the United States?". If the lawyers are allowed to talk down to or degrade someone of a different race on the stand, there isn't justice. Besides the lawyers, even the jurors will show the injustices.
“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” (page 261) In this scene, Atticus is questioning Tom as to why he was afraid when he says he has done nothing wrong. Tom Robinson explained that he was scared that he would end up in court and go to jail for something he did not do. He says he believes because he is a nigger he will be wrongly convicted and sent to jail for a crime that he was not responsible for committing. I find this disturbing that in this time period during the Great Depression a person would be sent to jail simply because of the color of their skin. It appears that there is no concrete evidence as to the conviction of Tom Robinson; therefore under the law of the United States he should be considered innocent until proven guilty. However, Tom is being treated as if there is no doubt that he is guilty. I have never attended law school, but I can clearly see that the Ewells have flaws in their story. This is not to say that Tom is not guilty, but in a case like this there needs to be more evidence than simply what the people testify with. This scene shows a prime example as to how there is not always justice for everyone under the law in the United States. Tom Robinson knows he has done absolutely nothing wrong however he feels the need to run away because he knows that because of the color of his skin he could be subjected to the unjust legal system.
I completely agree. There is no evidence what-so-ever that could possibly convict Tom of this crime. The only thing that is going against him is word of mouth, and that is unreliable because it is coming from Bob, Ewell, a racist drunk. If he were to be convicted, it would be purely based on the racist views that this town has.
"Were you paid for your services?" "No suh, after she offered me a nickel at first..." page 256.
In this scene, Tom Robinson was called up to be prosecuted by Atticus. He was asking him if he was getting paid for the job that he was doing for Mayella.
There are many people that are being taken advantage of and doing work for little or no pay, which was a huge problem back then for the African-American community. This is still a very large problem today.
This scene shows an example of not everyone being under the law. Although the African-Americans were being segregated in the time the book took place, they would work for no pay, which was very unfair, and could have been a factor to why Tom raped Mayella.
“What did he say, Tom? You must tell the jury what he said.” Tom Robinson shut his eyes tight. “He says you goddamn whore, I’ll kill ya.” Page 260
This scene is when Tom tells Atticus what Mr. Ewell said after Mayella kissed Tom. Tom wanted Mayella to back off but he didn't want to push her off because pushing her away would mean to go to jail for brutal activities.
I still wonder what Mayella wanted to do. Tom was so nice and respectful to her but accuses him for rape. If I were Mayella I would tell the absolute truth. Every single bit of it. Telling the truth not only makes everyone else refreshed but makes herself feel refreshed.
The theme that fits in this quote is the importance of family. Even though Mr. Ewell is a horrible father for Mayella, she still protects him. Maybe it may be because she was scared of him or maybe she intended to.
I agree with you and I think Mayella should be telling the truth. I think she is being forced by her father to lie under oath. Mayella is clearly scared of her father and if she doesn’t go along with his story then her fate could be worse than last time.
On the first page of chapter 19, we go through what happened to Tom Robinson when he last went to jail. He was put in jail for a disorderly conduct. He claims that a man attacked him with a knife and they got in a fight. Both men were fined, but Tom wasn’t able to pay. The man that cut him payed and never went to jail. Whereas, Tom had to be arrested and sent to jail.
In todays world, there are many fights, and a lot of violence. Although we have made many steps away from the segregation once felt, it is still alive and well. Tom was the victim in this situation. Although it doesn’t directly state that he fought back, he sounded like he was attacked and was just defending himself. https://letlukego.wordpress.com Attached is a link to a website protesting the arrest of a man who was sent to jail for defending himself. He was attacked because of his sexual orientation, and while defending himself was accused of assault. This is very similar to what previously happened to Tom Robinson.
This scene relates to, “the damage done by racism,” because it seems that Tom was sent to jail based on his race. Although he really just couldn’t afford to bail himself out, he shouldn’t have been accused of the crime anyway. How is he supposed to act if that happens? He had to fight back to save his life.
In this scene, Atticus Finch is questioning Tom Robinson in the court room. Tom is saying what happened when Bob Ewell found out that him and his daughter kissed. Tom was saying how scared he was and how he had to run away from Bob.
What I find disturbing is that Mayella started kissing Tom first. Tom was trying to stop her but could not. Bob found out and blamed Tom and did not consider that his daughter Mayella could have ever wanted to kiss him. In our society, we have come a long way and decreased racism in this world. There are still incidents that are rare but do happen.
This shows the damage done by racism. Bob thinks that black people are so awful and the fact that his daughter wanted to kiss a black man makes him extremely angered. He cannot believe that his daughter would ever want to kiss a man of a different race and does not even consider that it was his daughter who made the first move.
I totally agree! I never thought of it in that way, racism, but to come to think of it, it makes a lot of sense. Just because he was African American changed the outcome of the whole story, a sad reality and still occurs
“Yes suh, I had to serve ’cause I couldn’t pay the fine. Other fellow paid his’n”p.254
This scene is of Tom Robinson talking about serving time in jail and not being able to pay for himself to get out, even though a white man was able to pay bail for himself.
I believe that this quote resembles the theme of damage done by racism. It is evident that Tom is not as wealthy as a white man, and neither is most African Americans from the Great Depression. The reason why I think that racism has done damage is because it has gone so far as to make a man with different colored skin poorer than another. It is incredibly upsetting to me that people can be so cruel.
I once experienced someone making fun of me because my eyes are Asian, and they spilled my water bottle on the ground. This is similar to Tom not having as much money as the white man because I was short on the money I spent for my water bottle just because the person didn’t like the look of me.
This article is about a man who was homeless, and he had a little knife, but just because he was black, the cops assumed that he wanted to hurt them, so they killed him. This is definitely damage done to that man’s life by racism.
Mr. Gilmer smiled grimly at the jury. “You’re a mighty good fellow, it seems- did all this for not one penny?” Page 263
In this scene Mr. Gilmer is questioning Tom Robinson. Mr. Gilmer asks of why he helps her out with many things and does not ask for anything in return. Mr. Gilmer also brings up how he busted up the chifforobes with one hand and said if he was strong enough to do this with one hand then he is strong enough to choke Ms. Mayella with one hand.
What I find disturbing in this trail is the racial profiling. Tom Robinson a black man, a husband and father of three who has been nothing but kind to Ms. Mayella can easily be facing jail time. White people view Tom Robinson as a bad person because of his race, just as they do to other colored people. This is similar to our society today because many people judge others simply on their looks, religions and race. Even Sheriffs members of the community who are responsible for keeping peace have judged a person because of their race. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/18/joe-arpaio-racial-profili_n_6899260.html
This relates to the theme of the damage done by racism. To show he is not hiding anything Tom Robinson opens up and tells the jury and the people of his past trouble with the law. He is also completely honest of all the actions that have taken place between his and Mayella Ewell but because he is black there is racial profiling from the white folks.
“I don’t care one speck. It ain’t right, somehow it ain’t right doin’ ‘em that way. Hasn’t anybody got any business talkin’ like that-it just makes me sick.” page 266
Dill is upset about how the prosecutor treated Tom. Dill clearly sees a difference between Atticus and Mr. Gilmer and the way they question and cross-examine the witnesses. Dill noticed that Atticus called Mayella “M’am” or ‘Miss Mayella” but Mr. Gilmer called Tom “boy.” Scout tries to tell him that it just Mr.Gilmer’s method of making his case.
Once again in this novel the concept of damage done by racism becomes evident. Dill voices a sentiment not commonly expressed at that time. Coloreds were not treated as equals or treated with respect. I feel that Dill’s empathy toward Tom partially comes from himself and partially from his interaction with the Finch family.
I liked this part of the chapter. I loved how Dill did not care that Tom was black. He saw the difference in how Tom was being questioned and knew that it was wrong.
"Mr. Gilmer smiled grimly at the jury. 'You're a mighty good fellow, it seems- did all this for not one penny?' 'Yes suh. I felt right sorry for her, she seemed to try more'n the rest of 'em-' 'You felt sorry for her, you felt sorry for her?' Mr. Gilmer seemed ready to rise to the ceiling." Page 263-264
In this scene, Mr Gilmer thinks it is horrible that Tom Robinson, a poor black field worker, feels sorry for Mayella.
I think I Tom robinson was there only to help the woman with some things that she was having a hard time handling on her own.
The is connected to the theme of justice in the United States. The reason why this was such a mistake on Tom’s part is that saying you feel sorry for someone means (or at least can mean) that you regard yourself as in some sense superior to that person; and in the racist society described in the book it is totally unacceptable for any black person to regard himself as in any way superior to a white person.
“Yes suh, I had to serve ‘cause I couldn’t pay the fine. Other fellow paid his’n.” Chapter 19, Page 254
In this scene Tom Robinson is called up to plead his case. Atticus asks him about how he was convicted once before for disorderly conduct. He was attacked by another man who cut him. He fought back in self defense and both of them were sent to jail. The man who attacked him did not have to serve any time because someone paid his bail, Tom could not pay the money so he had to serve 30 days.
I feel that this is completely unfair to Tom. Both were guilty, if anything Tom was less guilty because he acted in self defense. The other man just did not have to serve time because he had connections with money, Tom did not. This is very similar to some cases today. Many people are able to get out of jail because of how much money they have, they are able to afford expensive lawyers and pay bail. This shows that richer people do have an advantage when it comes to the law.
This quote connects to the theme regarding fair justice for all under the law. It proves that there is not fair justice for all under the law. A man was let out solely because he had the money and connections to do so, Tom was kept in Jail because he did not have the money or connections. It is unfair in the law system how rich people can bail their way out of jail and poor people end up behind bars in situations where if they had more money they would not get thrown in jail. In conclusion money really does equal power.
I totally agree. The laws back then were skewed to favor the rich white man, and this even happens in today's justice system. I feel like Tom should not have been forced to pay a fine, or go to jail, because he was acting in self defense. Even today, people are killing others and getting away with it because they said that it was in self defense.
“‘You’re a mighty good fellow, it seems- did all this for not one penny?’ ‘Yes, suh. I felt right sorry for her, she seemed to try more’n the rest of ‘em-’ ‘You felt sorry for her, you felt sorry her her?’ Mr. Gilmer seemed ready to rise to the ceiling. The witness realized his mistake and shifted uncomfortably in the chair. But the damage was done. Below us, nobody liked Tom Robinson’s answer.” Pages 263-264.
In this scene, Tom Robinson is in the witness stand. He is explaining to the prosecution lawyer, Mr Gilmer, why he completed all these favors for Miss Mayella for nothing in return. He explains that he did them because he felt sorry for her, that she was always lonely and worked so hard by herself, but the courtroom and Mr. Gilmer did not like that answer.
In this time period, whites in the South constantly wanted to be seen as superior, and most became angry when that superiority was threatened. When Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on a bus to a white man is an instance of this. The moment she stood up for herself and challenged the superiority of whites, the white community became infuriated. This proves that in the mid-20th century, an “inferior” being can shamed upon and even put into jail by challenging a “superior” being, and these labels are solely based on opinions of race. That is exactly what is happening to Tom Robinson when he says he felt sorry for Miss Mayella. He’s putting himself above her, and this angers the whites in the courtroom.
This scene can connect to the theme of damage done by racism. Simply based on opinions regarding race, a black man can be, at the very least, looked down upon, if he were to challenge a white man. Since Tom said this statement in a courtroom, order was established, but out on the streets, a violent outburst would’ve probably ensued. It isn’t fair to those seen as inferior because of their race to be given harm for saying things are acting in a way that makes them equal or better than the superiors.
“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, then you would be scared too.” Page 261
In this scene, Atticus is asking Tom Robinson what happened the night that the alleged rape took place. Tom is talking about why he ran away from the Ewell house, even though he had not harmed Mayella in any way.
This can relate to racial profiling in America today. Many black males are being followed in shops and stores just because they are not white. I saw a video on a black man who dressed up in sweatpants and a ragged shirt, who went into an expensive clothing store. The man was actually very wealthy, and just wanted to see how people would react. While he was in the store, he was followed by employees, and was told that he couldn’t afford their clothing. He then came back a few hours later wearing a thousand dollar suit and tie, and was treated completely different. People have racist thoughts and act on them, even if they do not realize that they are acting this way. The man ended up telling off the store’s employees, and said they had lost his business.
This quote is a clear example of how racism affects people. Tom had done absolutely nothing wrong, but fled the scene like he was guilty of the crime that he is on trial for. This says something for how racist this town actually is. If a person is so scared of being somewhere, just because of his race, it really frightens me what these people might do to Tom. In a place like this, a black person cannot even walk around without fear. Fear of being attacked either verbally, or physically, just because of their color.
I agree, Tom fled because he knew that because he was black the situation would not look good. He was scared that he would have to go on trial for a crime that he did not commit. I wonder if Mayella had been seen with an unknown white man if the outcome would have been a little different?
“Well, Mr. Fich didn't act that way to Mayella and old man Ewell when he cross-examined them. “The way that man called him 'boy' all the time and sneered at him, an' looked around at the jury every time he answered-'...'Well, Dill, after all he's just a Negro.'" Pg:266 L:9
Tom Robinson is being questioned by Mr. Gilmer, after Atticus interrogated Mayella, with the testimony of Tom, everyone realized that did not coincide at all with what Mayella said. Tom Robinson said clearly to everyone that he was only helping Mayella, his intention was being nice to her because she looks so alone.
I feel that Mr. Gilmer is not being fair to Tom, He is tormented him with previously problems that Tom suffered. Mr Gilmer is trying to show to the judge that Tom is guilty for having been convicted of a fight in which the payment was jail for several days. Mr. Gilmer also is trying to intimidate Tom to hesitate in their responses but he didn't succeed because everything that Tom was saying was absolutely true.
The themes that connect to this scene are the damage done by racism, when Tom was being questioned the attitude of Mr. Gilmer in different tone compare to the tone that Atticus used with Mayella. Mr Gilmer didn't realize that everything that frightened Tom was should be judged to be in some compromising conditions with a white girl. That's what scared him more and he told Atticus, "Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you'd be scared, too." Pg: 261 While some whites thought that blacks were dishonest, and people with very bad attitude and presence, they only feared them and what they did was to avoid all kinds of problems with them.
I agree with you karen, The black members of the community live along a dirt road down past the city dump. They did not live near the white people because they did not want to be in a situation like Tom. White people make them guilty because they knew they could no defend themselves.
"Why did you run?' 'I was scared, suh.' 'Why were you scared?' 'Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too." page 261
In this scene, Tom Robinson explains to Atticus and the jury what happened the night of November twenty-first. Tom explains that Mayella was the one that came onto him, he was not the the one that came onto her. After this statement, Atticus asks Tom why he ran away, why he was scared. Tom tells Atticus that if he was black too, he would be scared.
It really bothers that Bob Ewell has such a problem with Mayella having interest in a black guy. It's even worse that Mayella is now turning on Tom as well. The whole entire incident is her fault and now she is putting the blame on someone else. Mayella is making it extremely difficult for Tom to try and have a life in this cruel world. Tom is doing all he can to pull himself out of poverty, at the same time, the Ewell's are doing all they can to pull him right back under.
This scene one hundred percent, connects to theme of the damage done by racism.Tom tells Atticus that he would be scared if he were black too. Tom is so afraid because ehe doesn't want to go to jail and he doesn't want his family to suffer. He knows that going into jail will not benefit his family at all and his family needs him if they want to survive. Tom also knows that if he were white there would be no crime and everything would be fine.
“Tom took the oath and stepped into the witness chair.” ( Page 124)
In this section, Tom had taken the oath and was now in the witness chair. Atticus was going to be asking him some questions and trying to help prove that he did not rape Mayella.
I think that Tom and Atticus are both very brave. Tom for being on the witness stand facing an all white jury, and Atticus for defending a black man and trying to get an all white jury to believe that he did not do the crime. It takes a lot for someone to know that odds are against them but to try anyway. Almost everyone in the town believed Mayella over Tom. Tom was black and that already lowered him in the eyes of the jury. During that time blacks were considered less than, Tom and Atticus both knew these facts and still decided that they would try and win over the jury. Once when I was in elementary school I had to race one of the fastest kids in the class. I knew that I was going to lose before I started the race but it did not stop me from running as fast as I could. I lost by a lot, but it felt good knowing that I tried my best.
The theme that best fits with this is the true definition of courage. Earlier in the book Atticus said, “ I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It’s when you know you’re licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see through it no matter what.” Atticus is defending a black man who was accused of the rape of a white girl and the people deciding Tom’s fate are all white. Atticus knows that he is most likely already beat or “licked,” but he is seeing this trial through. No matter how many people call him mean names, he is still trying his best to make sure that Tom does not go to jail.
On PG# 256 Scout states, “It came to me that Mayella Ewell was the loneliest person in the world. She was even lonelier than Boo Radley. When Atticus asked if she had any friends, she seemed to know what he meant, then she thought he was trying to make fun of her”.
As explained in the quote, Scout realizes what life is like for Mayella and how lonely it can be. It also connects to how Mayella claims that Tom Robinson was attempting to rape her just because her father saw her behaviour with Tom Robinson from the window.
The theme used in the quote is realities. The theme connects very well to our modern day society with the increase in many teens isolating themselves from others and becoming depressed, a pretty revelation for some, and a reality for many.
Chapter 19: “Yes suh, I had to serve ’cause I couldn’t pay the fine. Other fellow paid his’n”(Page 254)
In this scene Tom Robinson is explaining why he spent 30 days in jail. He could have paid a fine but did not have enough money so he served the 30 days.
What I find disturbing is how Tom could not pay but many white people at that time could. Tom is black and can’t get the best job. It is much tougher for him to make money compared to a white guy. It is upsetting to me how Tom had to live in jail for 30 days for something that he shouldn't be there for. Most black families during the great depression struggled to make a living and it shows here how Tom could not afford the 30 days of jail time.
This scene relates to the damage done by racism. It is clear that Tom is not as wealthy as a white man. Racism has made such a big impact that it affects the wealth between a white man and a black man. It is disturbing to me how this even happens. Everyone should be entitled to have any job they can get. But, that is not the case and I feel that Tom is working much harder than some of the white folks but getting less money. -gap/
“Until my father explained it to me later, I did not understand the subtlety of Tom’s predicament: he would not have dared strike a white woman under any circumstances and expect to live long, so he took the first opportunity to run- a sure sign of guilt.” Pages 260-261.
In this excerpt, Scout explains the situation Tom was faced with during his encounter with Miss Mayella. It seemed to be a lose-lose situation.
What I find disturbing is that Tom Robinson was forced to leave the scene because he was afraid of being convicted for a crime he never committed. In today’s world, if he stayed, he would’ve been given a fair trial if accused. If he ran, a fair trial would’ve also been given, but he would look guilty for running away. During the 1930s, Tom did the right thing by fleeing the scene. If he stayed, he would’ve been almost immediately convicted because being found there at the scene was evidence enough to a white jury to prove him guilty. Since he left, he also seems guilty because why would you leave when you didn’t do anything wrong? It really is a lose-lose situation, but running away was his best bet since he can attempt to explain why he fled.
This scene connects with the theme of the damage done by racism. Tom Robinson would’ve stayed at the scene if he knew he was going to be given a fair trial, but he’s smart enough to know that African-Americans are rarely given fair trials in this racist society. It’s sad that he was forced to run away to even have a chance of being proved innocent, even though today that would do more harm than good.
Racial discrimination was a key subject in Tom's trial. In the book it said that his case was hopeless due to the fact that he had to pass a racist jury.
“Then you ran?” “I sho‘ did, suh.” “Why did you run?” “I was scared, suh.” “Why were you scared?” “Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” Chapter 19, Page 261 In this scene, Atticus was questioning Tom about what happened the night when Mayella claimed that she was raped. Mr.Ewell started screaming Tom ran and Tom started running because he got scared and if that would of happened to Atticus he would of have done the same thing. If i was in Tom's position I would of have done the same thing. I would of have started running away if i didn’t know what was going on. I would probably get scared too. The theme that connects to this is the damage done by racism. In the late 1930’s there were a lot of places, neighborhoods, communities and other places were a lot of black people were being discriminated depending where they lived and other things.
In this chapter, on page 262, Mr. Gilmer questions Tom about what happened on November 21st. Gilmer treats Tom like a worthless piece of trash who doesn't even matter. He calls him a 'big buck' and calls him 'boy' when he is 25 years old and is married with three kids. I find it disturbing that Gilmer uses Tom's race as an offensive technique to try and make him the bad guy in this case when Mayella and Bob Ewell's stories aren't falling into place. This plays into the theme of damage done by racism, that a man can go into a court of law and make a patronize a full grown man just because he is balck
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, Max. Mr. Gilmer is a racist man who should not be treating Tom Robinson like he is. Tom is a grown man with kids, most likely just like Gilmer. Atticus is so different from Gilmer, and most people in Maycomb.
DeleteI completely agree with you, Max. Gilmer should not be treating Tom like he is. Tom should be treating just like Mayella or Bob, because under the law, everyone is equal.
DeleteI agree with you that Mr. Gilmer uses vocabulary to try and belittle Tom to gain more support for Mayella. The way he treats Tom makes Tom out to be the lesser man in this case.
Delete“Got in a fight with another man, he tried to cut me… I had to serve ‘cause I couldn’t pay the fine. Other fellow paid his’n.” Page 254
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Tom is on the witness stand being questioned by his attorney, Atticus Finch. Atticus wants to disclose the circumstances surrounding Tom’s previous time in jail. He wants to control how this information is presented to the jury. Tom testifies about his previous time in jail.
Even today, money can provide advantages in the legal system. If a defendant doesn’t have enough money, a court-appointed lawyer is provided. On the other hand, if a person can pay for their own lawyer, they can find one who is an expert and can provide a very good defense. A court-appointed lawyer would probably be working on a lot of cases and may not have a lot of resources to find evidence. A private lawyer is usually more dedicated to the case and has more resources to work with, which gives the defendant a better chance. Money can greatly help cases where the evidence is not crystal clear.
A theme that is depicted in this scene is the damage done by racism. Due to racism, Tom is not paid a sufficient amount of money for the work he does. He was put in jail because for fighting with another man. The other man was able to get out because he could pay the fine while Tom could not.
Tom is very lucky, because Atticus is his court appointed lawyer. If Tom had gotten anyone else, he might have been seen as guilty before the trial even started. Even though Atticus wasn't hired like Mr. Gilmer, he is just as dedicated as any other private lawyer would have been.
DeleteIn this case, it is amazing Tom got Atticus as his lawyer. Atticus doesn't care about race. He just cares about right from wrong and letting Tom go to jail would be wrong.
Delete“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.”
ReplyDeleteTom Robinson says this to Atticus as he’s on the witness’ stand in this scene. He’s describing why he ran, and he says that he ran because he was afraid that he would be sent to jail, even though he didn’t do anything wrong.
In this scene, Tom Robinson expertly states how different races are treated. Although there is less discrimination and racism in our world today, it still exists. Racism is still an issue. Tom Robinson explains how he is under different stresses to which Atticus can’t relate. This causes Tom Robinson’s life and actions to be different than how a white person may live or react. Changes in lifestyle and reactions vary among different groups of people, even today.
This scene also shows how unjust the American legal system was during this time period, and how it can be unjust today. Tom Robinson knew that he did nothing wrong, but he runs away anyway because he knows that he may still be prosecuted. He directly says that if one is African American, they are scared. Whites were not scared. This shows the injustice going on because African Americans didn’t have, and still don’t in many cases, security and safety from the law. They couldn’t trust that the law would protect them even if they didn’t do anything wrong. (Pg. 261, Paragraph 11)
I agree Abby. It is clear in this quote that blacks were treated much worse than whites back then. Obviously this difference would contribute to Tom running away when he saw Bob Ewell.
DeleteI Agree with analysis of the quote that you chose. There is so much racism in the community that many blacks fear for their lives. Tom Robinson does not run because he is guilty, he runs because he is afraid.
Delete“You felt sorry for her, you felt sorry for her?”
ReplyDeleteMr. Gilmer says this to Tom Robinson as Tom is on the witness’ stand. Tom had described why he did extra chores for Mayella, and Tom had said that he did it because he felt sorry for Mayella since she didn’t get much help from her family. Mr. Gilmer used Tom’s excuse to further prosecute him saying that a black man should not feel bad for a white woman.
This connects to our society today because sometimes African Americans get less opportunities than the rest of the people. Mr. Gilmer explains how African Americans should never be able to surpass a white person’s life. This means that all of their opportunities must be cut off. This still happens today. Sometimes, African Americans are discriminated against just because of their race. For example, an African American may not get a job even if they are qualified for it. It is really sad that some groups of people don’t get the same chances to better their lives as others. It contradicts the theory of the American dream.
In this scene, the extensive damage by racism is shown. Mr. Gilmer directly expresses that a black man should not feel remotely bad for a white woman under any circumstances. This shows how damaging racism has been towards African Americans because their lives were automatically seen as lower than the rest of the people’s were. African Americans were never allowed to have a better life than a white person, no matter how hard the African American worked, or how little the white worked. This is a horrible cycle in which no African American could move up in. They were stuck where they were. (Pg. 264, Paragraph 2)
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ReplyDeleteI disagree with you in the sense that I believe our world has become better about treating everybody equally. Of course, there is still a lot of racism, but nowadays, I believe it is not as severe because of the laws set in place to protect people, and because African Americans and other races have many more rights. Even if the social aspect is not much improved, politically, everybody is treated more justly.
DeleteI agree with you, Abby Wilson. The world has really come a long way with treating everyone equally. Although, it is not perfect, we have really improved as a nation, as a country (#MERICA).
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ReplyDelete‘I sho’ did, suh.’
‘Why did you run?’
‘I was scared, suh.’
‘Why were you scared?’
‘Mr. Finch, if you were a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.’”
In this part from the story, Atticus is questioning Tom regarding his behavior the night Mayella’s rape was reported. Tom says that once Mr. Ewell was looking into the room from the window, and he had begun screaming, Tom fled. When Atticus asks why, Tom responds by saying that he was scared because it was not the ideal position for a black man to get caught in, even though he hadn’t done anything to Mayella. He says that if Atticus was black and he was in the same position, he would have been scared too.
The case in Ferguson, Missouri has many similarities to the case depicted in this story. Michael Brown and Tom Robinson were both African American men, yet the gap between both cases was nearly 84 years. Michael Brown’s friend, Dorian Johnson, who was a witness to Michael’s murder, stated that the officer had fired several shots at the two of them, even though neither was armed and supposedly, they were not causing any harm to anyone else. The police officer claimed that both boys proposed a threat to him, so he fired several shots. The two boys fled from the scene because they were both stricken with fear, and they didn’t know if they would live to see another day. Tom Robinson had also run away not because he was guilty, but because he feared for his life, just as Dorian and Michael had. This scene is very similar to a more recent case from this summer described by an eyewitness. This is a link to see a video of Dorian’s interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXTZOR-lHw0
This specific scene from the book relates to the theme of the damage done by racism. Maycomb county is a very racist society down south during the 1930s. Tom ran because he was terrified of what would happen to him if he stayed. He predicted that he would end up in court just as he had. Tom feared for his life because the given scene could be perceived as the thought that Tom was advancing on Mayella, when really, it was just the opposite.
I agree with you Kathryn, because if Tom had stayed in the Ewell home Mr. Ewell would have surely hurt him, but since he fled, it makes him look like he was running from the scene. If I were Tom, I'm not sure what I would've done. Both decisions would probably have ended up in court either way.
DeleteI agree with you Kathryn. It is unfortunate that because of Tom's circumstances he felt his best option was to run. However, by running it looks as if he had done something wrong. It is interesting to bring up the idea of what if he had not run? Would they still be in the same situation in court that they are in now?
Delete“Nobody said ‘that’s just their way,’ about the Ewells. Maycomb gave them Christmas baskets, welfare money, and the back of its hand. Tom Robinson was probably the only person who was ever decent to her. But she said he took advantage of her, and when she stood up, she looked at him as if he were dirt beneath her feet.” Chapter 19 Page 257.
ReplyDeleteIn this quote from the story, Scout is discussing how the Ewells relied upon Maycomb county. The town provided them with welfare money, and other benefits that were not given to everyone else. Tom had said that he always helped Mayella with what she needed because he pitied her. He stated that there was never anybody to help her out, and that she was often alone at home. Yet, despite Tom’s repeated acts of decency and respect, Mayella still accused him of raping her, and she thinks of herself as being superior to him.
Even today, many people believe that they are of higher status than other minorities such as African Americans and Latinos. It doesn’t matter how much respect and dignity these minorities may possess, because some people still view themselves as being more sovereign and dominant. People today are still prejudicial and discriminatory.
This section of the story has to do with the damage done by racism. Mayella, as well as much of the white population in Maycomb county, believes that she is of higher rank than Tom and other African Americans. This town is clearly a very racist society. Although Tom is one of the few people in her life that have treated her with dignity, Mayella overlooks this and still accuses him of violating her.
I agree with you, Kathryn. Tom is truly a good person and should not be seen as less of the person that he is, based on his race. Mayella completely overlooks Tom's true kindness and accuses him of rape when he most likely, is innocent.
DeleteI agree with both Danny and Kathryn. Tom Robinson really does seem to be a good innocent man but so many people can’t see this because he is black. It’s horrible that some people see themselves as more superior to others because of their race and it’s even worse to think it’s still a problem today.
Delete“Then you ran?”
ReplyDelete“I sho‘ did, suh.”
“Why did you run?”
“I was scared, suh.”
“Why were you scared?”
“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” Page 261.
In this scene Atticus is questioning Tom about what he did the night that Mayella claimed to be raped. Tom says that when Mr. Ewell looked into the room and started screaming Tom ran. Tom says that he ran because he was scared and that is Atticus was in his position, he would have done the same thing.
This case can relate to the case in Ferguson. Tom is accused after he said that he was not causing any harm, same with what happened to Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson, they said that the cops started to just fire shots at them. However the cops claim that they were a threat to them. In both cases the people who were said to not be causing trouble fled the scene because they were scared.
This scene deals with the damage done by racism. During the 1930’s there were lots of communities that were racist. I think Tom ran away from the house because he didn’t want to know what would happen if he stayed, probably something very bad I guess.
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ReplyDelete“ Dill exhaled patiently. I know all that Scout. It was the way he said it made me sick, plain sick. He’s supposed to act that way,Dill, he was cross-- He didn’t act that way when--- Dill, those were his own witnesses. Well Mr. Finch didn’t act that way to Mayella and old man Ewell when he cross-examined them. The way that man called him ‘boy’ all the time an’ sneered at him, an’ looked around the jury every time he answered--- Well, dill, after all he’s just a Negro. I don’t care one speck. It ain’t right , somehow it ain’t right to do em’ that way. Middle of page 266
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Dill and Scout have a conversation about how Dill feels about Mr. Gilmers actions and responses to Tom Robinsons responses. Dill feels disgusted by Mr. Gilmers reactions and responses. Mr. Gilmer calls Tom ‘boy’, look over the jury when Tom responds, and is very rude to him. In this chapter, reading about Tom you see that he is respectful, and by this we see how Mr. Gilmer acts. Just because Tom Robinson is black he treats him horribly, compared to how he treats Mr. Ewell and Mayella. Although Scout confirms that is Just Mr. Gilmers way, Dill still thinks his actions against Tom was unfair treatment.
I agree to Dills feelings and statements. The way Mr. Gilmer treats Tom in the courthouse is rude and unfair. Compared to how he treats Mr. Ewell and Mayella he treats Tom as if he were dirt trying to answer his questions. Dill his hurt that someone could treat a person like that. The treatment Tom receives lets you know how racist people can be when treating people differently. I know that Scout says its just Mr. Gilmers way , but when Atticus talked with Mayella and Mr. Ewell he was kind and not rude at all. You can really see what a person is like by how they treat people.
In this quote the main theme it connects to is the damage done by racism. Racism affects how people treated one another compared to how they treated African Americans. In the courthouse Mr. Gilmer treats Tom as if he’s nothing. While Atticus treats him with respect. Calling someone ‘boy’ and not the person's real name is disrespectful, that person no matter what race, deserves to be called by their given name. Dill become disgusted by how Mr. Gilmer treats Tom, while pleased at Atticus’ behavior. This shows how people can treat others right or how they can act disrespectfully to people who don’t deserve those people’s harmful actions and words.
Sarah, I completely agree with you. Is it really that hard for Mr. Gilmer to be at least a bit more respectful to Tom? I understand that he is trying to find him guilty, but he has no right to be rude. Atticus is polite to Mr. Ewell and Mayella even though he is defending Tom.
Delete"Well, Dill, after all he's just a Negro."
ReplyDelete"I don't care one speck. It ain't right, somehow it ain't right to do 'em that way. Hasn't anybody got any business talking' like that--it just makes me sick." page 266
In this scene, Dill is telling Scout how he feels about the way Mr. Gilmer is questioning Tom Robinson, the black suspect for rape. Dill believes that Tom Robinson is being treated unfairly and he does not care that Tom is black. Mr. Gilmer should not treat anybody as poorly as he is treating Tom.
Tom Robinson is similar to all blacks who are discriminated against in society today. Many people today are judged by others based on the color of their skin. In the book To Kill a Mockingbird, many people believe that Tom Robinson raped Mayella Ewell. This is just because his skin is black, so people believe that he is more likely to commit a crime.
The theme that relates to this scene is the damage done by racism. During this historical period the whites believed that they were superior over the black people. If Tom Robinson was a white man accused of rape, Mr. Gilmer would treat him with more respect. Tom is telling the lawyer, Mr. Gilmer, what happened that night in his perspective, but Mr. Gilmer does not believe him. Racism does still occur but not as much as it used to. A black man would be considered equal to a white man in court today.
I completely agree with you, Cassidy. Tom Robinson is being treated very unfairly by Mr. Gilmer, just because of the color of his skin. It is a relief to know that US Law has greatly improved on racism, however, there are still some people in court that do not consider black skin equivalent to white. It is quite disturbing.
DeleteI agree with you, Mr. Gilmer would've definitely treated a white man with more respect. Despite being "equal" in the court of law, racism still occurred which is unfair to African-Americans.
Delete"Robinson, you're pretty good at busting up chifforobes and kindling with one hand, aren't you?"
ReplyDelete"Yes, suh, I reckon so."
"Strong enough to choke the breath out of a woman and sling her to the floor?"
"I never done that, suh."
"But are you strong enough to?"
"I reckon so, suh." page 263
Mr. Gilmer questioned Tom Robinson about the strength of his good arm. He asked Tom if he could have hurt Mayella with one arm. Tom replied with yes, it's possible and Mr. Gilmer accused him of hurting her.
Mr. Gilmer twisted Tom's words into making him say that he could hurt Mayella with one arm. He manipulated him unfairly. It’s not possible for Tom to have hit Mayella with his left arm in her right eye, but the prosecutor made it seem a little more believable to think that. In the real world, a good lawyer is one who can twist words and make the defendant slip up. A lot of times it doesn’t matter who’s guilty or not, it matters how the prosecution portrays the facts. If the lawyer is convincing enough, then the jury will believe what he is saying. The theme for this scene is justice for all under the law. I believe that Tom doesn’t realize what he should say about his arm. He told the entire courtroom that he could hurt someone with one arm, making him look guilty. If I were Tom I probably wouldn’t have understood what Mr. Gilmer was trying to do either. Tom was being polite and answering all the questions truthfully with no confusion. Guilty or not, Mr. Gilmer is going to twist the facts against Tom to make sure he is convicted of the crime.
Tom Robinson shut his eyes tight. “He says you goddamn whore, I’ll kill ya.” Pg. 260
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Tom Robinson is giving his account of what transpired at the Ewell home the day he was accused of raping Mayella. In particular, he tells the court about Mr. Ewell and what he said after he saw Mayella kiss Tom on the cheek.
I’m confused about Mr. Ewell’s use of the word “whore”. I always thought that a whore was either a prostitute or a woman who sleeps around. Mayella is neither of them. She only kissed Tom and on the cheek. So, why does Mr. Ewell say she’s a whore and has such a baleful demeanor? It is obvious that Mr. Ewell considers this seemingly innocent act equivalent to the nocturnal movements of a streetwalker. He is so enraged by her iniquity that he feels he must stifle her desires. In other words, he plans to beat her. Although any father might be concerned about his daughter’s budding sexuality, his tirade is very imprudent.
The themes that connect to this scene are the importance of home and family and the damage done by racism. Despite the fact that Mr. Ewell’s actions are extreme, he does realize that his daughter has broken a serious social more by engaging in physical and social interaction with Tom. He needs to discipline her, so she will not repeat her mistake. He does this in the only way he knows how: with his fists. In a very demented way, Mr. Ewell feels he is protecting his daughter from being a social pariah. In this historical period, the mixing of races was forbidden. Mayella realizes this, but she is so overwhelmed with loneliness that she ignores her culture and kisses Tom. To be labeled a whore after this simple act is indicative of the seriousness of her “offense”.
"Well, Dill, after all he's just a Negro."
ReplyDelete"I don't care one speck. It ain't right, somehow it ain't right to do 'em that way. Hasn't anybody got any business talking' like that--it just makes me sick." page 266
In this scene Dill is explaining to Scout what he thinks of the trial. Dill says that it does not matter what color he is, it still does not give anyone the right to talk to Tom that way. It really disturbs Dill and makes him feel very sorry for Tom Robinson.
This is very similar to what racism is like in today’s world. Many African American people are discriminated against based on the color of their skin. It is the same for all types of people who are being discriminated against. Many people who are racist and saying these types of things, think that they are better than someone because of their race. People today really need to learn that we are all human and should be treated equally, no matter what race and what ethnicity we are.
This scene relates to the theme, the damage done by racism. White people in this society, and in this frame of time, thought that they were better that those who were a different race. Like we see in this scene, Tom Robinson is being talked down to by the white people who believe that he is guilty. It makes no sense why Tom would be put in this position just because of his race.
Dill is still a young child who doesn't understand racism and discrimination which is why he gets upset at the trial. He doesn't understand why Tom is treated with such disrespect. Would the world be a more fair place if we all thought like innocent, unbiased children?
ReplyDelete"Mr. Gilmer smiled grimly at the jury. 'You're a mighty good fellow, it seems- did all this for not one penny?'
ReplyDelete'Yes suh. I felt right sorry for her, she seemed to try more'n the rest of 'em-'
'You felt sorry for her, you felt sorry for her?' Mr. Gilmer seemed ready to rise to the ceiling.” pg. 263-264
In this scene, Mr. Gilmer thinks it is horrible that Tom Robinson, a poor black field worker, feels sorry for Mayella, a white citizen of Maycomb. It should be acceptable, considering the condition that she lives in, but in regard to the racial standards of the time, Tom's statement causes some resentment.
What I find disturbing is the way that witnesses think about Tom just because he is black. The race doesn’t show if you are more or less than the others, it is just a stereotype people use to hurt them. The fact that Tom is black doesn’t mean he is guilty, ha was just trying to help Mayella at her house. Today it stills happen and one example is the case Eric Garner who died because a with police man used a chokehold. A New York grand jury decided not to indict in the death of Eric Garner. Colored started protest against the law because of the decision of the jury. They thought that the jury make this decision because the officer was white and the victim was black. http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/10/justice/new-york-pantaleo-nypd-interview/
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Mr. Gilmer judges Tom for his skin color and doesn’t accept Tom’s apologies. If Tom was telling the truth, most of the people would continue judging him. Although, To Kill A Mockingbird is only a book it shows the true during the Great Depression. I can’t believe how people during this period could segregate others just for their race knowing that we are all humans, created in the same way.
I agree with you. Segregation has been a problem for a long time. The most well-known segregation in the United states has been racial segregation, the problem with being white or black. All separated by skin color.
Delete“Why did you run?” “I was scared, suh.” “Why were you scared?” “Mr. Finch, if you was a n----r like me, you’d be scared, too.”
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Tom Robinson is testifying and Atticus is questioning Tom as to why he would run away after Bob Ewell showed up.
What I find disturbing is that Tom feels so scared, that he will be attacked or killed because of his race, that he doesn’t even stay to explain his side of the story to Bob Ewell. Tom realizes that if he stays in the Ewell’s house to explain he is risking his life. Racial profiling is still prevalent today. A study from 2005 shows that African American drivers are twice as likely to be arrested during a roadside pullover that white drivers. It is disgusting that we still have racism in this great country more than 70 years later.
The theme that connects to this scene is the damage done by racism. Because of racism in Maycomb during the Great Depression, Tom feared for his life over what should have been a simple explanation to Mr. Ewell. If Tom Robinson was white, there almost surely would not have been a big problem or as severe a confrontation.
http://www.civilrights.org/publications/reports/racial-profiling2011/the-reality-of-racial.html
I feel Tom had every right to be scared. In that time period racism was a big deal and some racial problems lead to death of multiple people. Tom was just fearing for his life so he did what he thought was best to stay a live. If he stayed Tom might have been killed that night.
DeleteI agree Sam. It shows how big of a deal your race was back then. It is upsetting to me that Tom felt so scared that he had to sprint out of the house and felt if he had not he would be risking his life.
Delete“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” Page 261.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Tom Robinson is on the witness stand and Atticus is questioning him about why he ran on the day that Mayella is accusing him of rape. Tom says he was scared of going on trial and going to jail because even though he knew he did nothing wrong, he knew how he would be unjustly treated on trial.
What I find disturbing is that the law system is so unjust that an African American can be scared of going on trial for doing nothing wrong. There is still a great deal of racism in the world today but I’m curious if our law system is really just or not? We have all heard the cases like Ferguson which would show how our law system is unfair but is it generally a just system?
This scene shows how unjust the American legal system was in the 1930s. Tom Robinson ran not because he did something wrong but soulfully because he was scared of going to jail. In this quote he says that if Atticus were black like him, he would understand more and would’ve ran too. It’s horrible to think that African Americans couldn’t feel safe with their own legal system.
I agree, It is so disturbing that people treated other races so poorly. It makes me feel so bad how Tom is scared just because he is black.
Delete“Nobody said ‘that’s just their way,’ about the Ewells. Maycomb gave them Christmas baskets, welfare money, and the back of its hand. Tom Robinson was probably the only person who was ever decent to her. But she said he took advantage of her, and when she stood up, she looked at him as if he were dirt beneath her feet.” Chapter 19 Page 257
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Scout is talking about how the Ewells relied on Maycomb county. The town provided them with money and other stuff that was not given to everyone in the county. Tom had said that he always helped Mayella with what she needed because he felt bad for her. He said that there wasn't really anybody to help her out and that she was often alone at home. Although Tom showed some sympathy and quite a bit of respect, Mayella still accused him of raping her.
Even in today's world, many people believe that they are a higher and better status than other minorities such as African Americans and Hispanics. They believe that they, for no reason, should have to condescend to the level of others. It doesn't matter how much respect and dignity and discipline these minorities may have, because some people will still view themselves as being more powerful.
The theme that relates is the damage done by racism. Mayella, believes that she is better than Tom and other African Americans. Maycomb County can be a racist town. Although Tom is one of the few people in her life that have treated her with respect and kindness, Mayella forgets about this and still accuses him of raping her.
“Why did you run?’ ‘ I was scared, suh.’ ‘Why were you scared?’ ‘Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” p261
ReplyDeleteTom Robinson is giving his testimony to Atticus and the jury during the trial. After Tom explains that Mayella came onto him, and not the other way around, Atticus asks Tom why he ran away. Tom tells Atticus that if he was a nigger, he would be scared too.
I think that Bob and Mayella’s values and virtues are contorted, warped, and crazy. Bob Ewell has no problems beating his daughter because of her interest in a black man, and Mayella is effectively sentencing that same man to death. Tom is a good man who is trying to pull himself and his family out of poverty, with a disfigured arm and half a country working against him. Tom being scared just shows that there was no justice for all under the law in the USA.
The themes conveyed in this scene are: the damage done by racism, and is there really justice for all under the law in the United States. Tom only ran from the scene of the crime (Mayella’s beating by Bob) because he was black and assumed something bad would happen to him. Tom fears conviction for a crime he did not commit, not based upon circumstantial evidence, but based on the color of his skin. At this point in American history, there was not justice for all under the law in the United States. Only white men could serve on the jury, so there was no diversity whatsoever.
"Then you ran?"
ReplyDelete"I sho’ did, suh."
"Why did you run?"
"I was scared, suh."
"Why were you scared?"
"Mr. Finch, if you were a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.”
page 261
In this scene Atticus was asking Tom Robinson about what were he doing the night Mayella was raped. Tom says that when Mr Ewell looked into the room from the window and he started to scream so Tom run away because he was scared. Atticus asked him why was he scared and Tom answered if he was in same situation as Tom, he would have done the something.
Today, even though there are laws to protect African American, there are people who still harm African American and disagree with the laws. Because of this many African American don’t belived that laws will help or make a safe place for them. There are a few news that some African American got shot by white police, but the person who was shot didn’t do anything. This situation is very similar to the situation of Tom Robinson.
The theme that connect to this is the damage done by racism. Tom Robinson had to run away because if he had stayed, he would have got hurt.
“ Mr.Finch if you was a nigger like me , you’d be scared too” Pg 261
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Tom Robinson is explaining to Atticus why he ran out of the house when he saw Bob Ewell running towards the house .
If I were Tom I would’ve stayed put and told Bob what had occurred so then the whole court thing could have not happened. Also so then he could have explained and told what truly happened so if Bob did still want to go to court he couldn’t lie and say all the things he had said in the chapter.
In this scene the connection is the damage done by racism. This is because Tom wasn’t able to tell his side of the story to Bob so the only thing Bob could think and rely on was what his daughter told him. Also because of his color Bob probably inferred that he was the reason his daughter was beaten up .
I like how you stated the point and then after put yourself in the characters shoes. The connection that you made to the theme was very good, and I can agree with the connection that you made. You also made a good inference, which is what I also did too!
DeleteI disagree with you because I don’t think that Bob would have reacted well if Tom stayed. Bob wouldn’t have listened to Tom and unleashed his wrath on him and Mayella. Even if he had listened he would still make Tom go to court and lie about what happened because Bob is covering his own wrong doings.
Delete“He guided his arm to the bible and his rubber like left hand sought contact with the black binding. As he raised his right hand, the useless one slipped off the bible and hit the clerks.” Chapter 19 page 254
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Tom Robinson demonstrates his left hand is disabled. This is important because Mayella’s injuries were done by a left handed person. This was Atticus’s main argument because it proves that Tom could not commit the crime. Tom’s injury was from a accident when he was younger.
In comparison a trial today evidence of this sort would be still effective. Today we also have dna proof while in contrast at the time of Tom’s trial simpler methods had to be used.
I feel that Atticus was clever in how Tom could not commit this crime. Although we realize that the jury may not always look at the facts and be more influenced by racial thoughts.
The text to theme connection is injustice. We hope that the legal system would find the correct outcome, but injustice sometimes exists. Innocent men are sometimes wrongly convicted.
"For some reason Dill had started crying and couldn't stop; quietly at first then the sobs were heard by several people in the balcony...
ReplyDelete'I know all that, Scout. It was the way he said it made me sick, plain sick.'" (Page 266)
In this scene, Dill begins to cry because he is upset and angry at how Mr. Gilmer was talking to and treating Tom. Him and Scout leave the court room and go outside so that Dill can relax.
I strongly agree with Dill. It seems Dill is following the opinions of Atticus, which is also what I agree with. Regardless if you dislike someone, you shouldn't talk down to them or treat them differently to make them feel like they are not valued. Today, even aside from race, some people are guilty of this. In schools, people may try to make others feel like they are beneath them, especially in an argument or between enemies.
This scene relates to the theme of "is there really justice for all under the law in the United States?". If the lawyers are allowed to talk down to or degrade someone of a different race on the stand, there isn't justice. Besides the lawyers, even the jurors will show the injustices.
“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” (page 261)
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is questioning Tom as to why he was afraid when he says he has done nothing wrong. Tom Robinson explained that he was scared that he would end up in court and go to jail for something he did not do. He says he believes because he is a nigger he will be wrongly convicted and sent to jail for a crime that he was not responsible for committing.
I find this disturbing that in this time period during the Great Depression a person would be sent to jail simply because of the color of their skin. It appears that there is no concrete evidence as to the conviction of Tom Robinson; therefore under the law of the United States he should be considered innocent until proven guilty. However, Tom is being treated as if there is no doubt that he is guilty. I have never attended law school, but I can clearly see that the Ewells have flaws in their story. This is not to say that Tom is not guilty, but in a case like this there needs to be more evidence than simply what the people testify with.
This scene shows a prime example as to how there is not always justice for everyone under the law in the United States. Tom Robinson knows he has done absolutely nothing wrong however he feels the need to run away because he knows that because of the color of his skin he could be subjected to the unjust legal system.
I completely agree. There is no evidence what-so-ever that could possibly convict Tom of this crime. The only thing that is going against him is word of mouth, and that is unreliable because it is coming from Bob, Ewell, a racist drunk. If he were to be convicted, it would be purely based on the racist views that this town has.
Delete"Were you paid for your services?" "No suh, after she offered me a nickel at first..." page 256.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Tom Robinson was called up to be prosecuted by Atticus. He was asking him if he was getting paid for the job that he was doing for Mayella.
There are many people that are being taken advantage of and doing work for little or no pay, which was a huge problem back then for the African-American community. This is still a very large problem today.
This scene shows an example of not everyone being under the law. Although the African-Americans were being segregated in the time the book took place, they would work for no pay, which was very unfair, and could have been a factor to why Tom raped Mayella.
“What did he say, Tom? You must tell the jury what he said.”
ReplyDeleteTom Robinson shut his eyes tight. “He says you goddamn whore, I’ll kill ya.” Page 260
This scene is when Tom tells Atticus what Mr. Ewell said after Mayella kissed Tom. Tom wanted Mayella to back off but he didn't want to push her off because pushing her away would mean to go to jail for brutal activities.
I still wonder what Mayella wanted to do. Tom was so nice and respectful to her but accuses him for rape. If I were Mayella I would tell the absolute truth. Every single bit of it. Telling the truth not only makes everyone else refreshed but makes herself feel refreshed.
The theme that fits in this quote is the importance of family. Even though Mr. Ewell is a horrible father for Mayella, she still protects him. Maybe it may be because she was scared of him or maybe she intended to.
I agree with you and I think Mayella should be telling the truth. I think she is being forced by her father to lie under oath. Mayella is clearly scared of her father and if she doesn’t go along with his story then her fate could be worse than last time.
DeleteOn the first page of chapter 19, we go through what happened to Tom Robinson when he last went to jail. He was put in jail for a disorderly conduct. He claims that a man attacked him with a knife and they got in a fight. Both men were fined, but Tom wasn’t able to pay. The man that cut him payed and never went to jail. Whereas, Tom had to be arrested and sent to jail.
ReplyDeleteIn todays world, there are many fights, and a lot of violence. Although we have made many steps away from the segregation once felt, it is still alive and well. Tom was the victim in this situation. Although it doesn’t directly state that he fought back, he sounded like he was attacked and was just defending himself. https://letlukego.wordpress.com Attached is a link to a website protesting the arrest of a man who was sent to jail for defending himself. He was attacked because of his sexual orientation, and while defending himself was accused of assault. This is very similar to what previously happened to Tom Robinson.
This scene relates to, “the damage done by racism,” because it seems that Tom was sent to jail based on his race. Although he really just couldn’t afford to bail himself out, he shouldn’t have been accused of the crime anyway. How is he supposed to act if that happens? He had to fight back to save his life.
“He says you god-damn whore, I’ll kill ya.” 260 chapter 19
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus Finch is questioning Tom Robinson in the court room. Tom is saying what happened when Bob Ewell found out that him and his daughter kissed. Tom was saying how scared he was and how he had to run away from Bob.
What I find disturbing is that Mayella started kissing Tom first. Tom was trying to stop her but could not. Bob found out and blamed Tom and did not consider that his daughter Mayella could have ever wanted to kiss him. In our society, we have come a long way and decreased racism in this world. There are still incidents that are rare but do happen.
This shows the damage done by racism. Bob thinks that black people are so awful and the fact that his daughter wanted to kiss a black man makes him extremely angered. He cannot believe that his daughter would ever want to kiss a man of a different race and does not even consider that it was his daughter who made the first move.
I totally agree! I never thought of it in that way, racism, but to come to think of it, it makes a lot of sense. Just because he was African American changed the outcome of the whole story, a sad reality and still occurs
Delete“Yes suh, I had to serve ’cause I couldn’t pay the fine. Other fellow paid his’n”p.254
ReplyDeleteThis scene is of Tom Robinson talking about serving time in jail and not being able to pay for himself to get out, even though a white man was able to pay bail for himself.
I believe that this quote resembles the theme of damage done by racism. It is evident that Tom is not as wealthy as a white man, and neither is most African Americans from the Great Depression. The reason why I think that racism has done damage is because it has gone so far as to make a man with different colored skin poorer than another. It is incredibly upsetting to me that people can be so cruel.
I once experienced someone making fun of me because my eyes are Asian, and they spilled my water bottle on the ground. This is similar to Tom not having as much money as the white man because I was short on the money I spent for my water bottle just because the person didn’t like the look of me.
http://rt.com/usa/200855-police-white-shooting-hall/
This article is about a man who was homeless, and he had a little knife, but just because he was black, the cops assumed that he wanted to hurt them, so they killed him. This is definitely damage done to that man’s life by racism.
ReplyDeleteMr. Gilmer smiled grimly at the jury. “You’re a mighty good fellow, it seems- did all this for not one penny?” Page 263
In this scene Mr. Gilmer is questioning Tom Robinson. Mr. Gilmer asks of why he helps her out with many things and does not ask for anything in return. Mr. Gilmer also brings up how he busted up the chifforobes with one hand and said if he was strong enough to do this with one hand then he is strong enough to choke Ms. Mayella with one hand.
What I find disturbing in this trail is the racial profiling. Tom Robinson a black man, a husband and father of three who has been nothing but kind to Ms. Mayella can easily be facing jail time. White people view Tom Robinson as a bad person because of his race, just as they do to other colored people. This is similar to our society today because many people judge others simply on their looks, religions and race. Even Sheriffs members of the community who are responsible for keeping peace have judged a person because of their race. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/18/joe-arpaio-racial-profili_n_6899260.html
This relates to the theme of the damage done by racism. To show he is not hiding anything Tom Robinson opens up and tells the jury and the people of his past trouble with the law. He is also completely honest of all the actions that have taken place between his and Mayella Ewell but because he is black there is racial profiling from the white folks.
“I don’t care one speck. It ain’t right, somehow it ain’t right doin’ ‘em that way. Hasn’t anybody got any business talkin’ like that-it just makes me sick.” page 266
ReplyDeleteDill is upset about how the prosecutor treated Tom. Dill clearly sees a difference between Atticus and Mr. Gilmer and the way they question and cross-examine the witnesses. Dill noticed that Atticus called Mayella “M’am” or ‘Miss Mayella” but Mr. Gilmer called Tom “boy.” Scout tries to tell him that it just Mr.Gilmer’s method of making his case.
Once again in this novel the concept of damage done by racism becomes evident. Dill voices a sentiment not commonly expressed at that time. Coloreds were not treated as equals or treated with respect. I feel that Dill’s empathy toward Tom partially comes from himself and partially from his interaction with the Finch family.
I liked this part of the chapter. I loved how Dill did not care that Tom was black. He saw the difference in how Tom was being questioned and knew that it was wrong.
Delete"Mr. Gilmer smiled grimly at the jury. 'You're a mighty good fellow, it seems- did all this for not one penny?'
ReplyDelete'Yes suh. I felt right sorry for her, she seemed to try more'n the rest of 'em-'
'You felt sorry for her, you felt sorry for her?' Mr. Gilmer seemed ready to rise to the ceiling." Page 263-264
In this scene, Mr Gilmer thinks it is horrible that Tom Robinson, a poor black field worker, feels sorry for Mayella.
I think I Tom robinson was there only to help the woman with some things that she was having a hard time handling on her own.
The is connected to the theme of justice in the United States. The reason why this was such a mistake on Tom’s part is that saying you feel sorry for someone means (or at least can mean) that you regard yourself as in some sense superior to that person; and in the racist society described in the book it is totally unacceptable for any black person to regard himself as in any way superior to a white person.
“Yes suh, I had to serve ‘cause I couldn’t pay the fine. Other fellow paid his’n.” Chapter 19, Page 254
ReplyDeleteIn this scene Tom Robinson is called up to plead his case. Atticus asks him about how he was convicted once before for disorderly conduct. He was attacked by another man who cut him. He fought back in self defense and both of them were sent to jail. The man who attacked him did not have to serve any time because someone paid his bail, Tom could not pay the money so he had to serve 30 days.
I feel that this is completely unfair to Tom. Both were guilty, if anything Tom was less guilty because he acted in self defense. The other man just did not have to serve time because he had connections with money, Tom did not. This is very similar to some cases today. Many people are able to get out of jail because of how much money they have, they are able to afford expensive lawyers and pay bail. This shows that richer people do have an advantage when it comes to the law.
This quote connects to the theme regarding fair justice for all under the law. It proves that there is not fair justice for all under the law. A man was let out solely because he had the money and connections to do so, Tom was kept in Jail because he did not have the money or connections. It is unfair in the law system how rich people can bail their way out of jail and poor people end up behind bars in situations where if they had more money they would not get thrown in jail. In conclusion money really does equal power.
DeleteI totally agree. The laws back then were skewed to favor the rich white man, and this even happens in today's justice system. I feel like Tom should not have been forced to pay a fine, or go to jail, because he was acting in self defense. Even today, people are killing others and getting away with it because they said that it was in self defense.
“‘You’re a mighty good fellow, it seems- did all this for not one penny?’ ‘Yes, suh. I felt right sorry for her, she seemed to try more’n the rest of ‘em-’ ‘You felt sorry for her, you felt sorry her her?’ Mr. Gilmer seemed ready to rise to the ceiling. The witness realized his mistake and shifted uncomfortably in the chair. But the damage was done. Below us, nobody liked Tom Robinson’s answer.” Pages 263-264.
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Tom Robinson is in the witness stand. He is explaining to the prosecution lawyer, Mr Gilmer, why he completed all these favors for Miss Mayella for nothing in return. He explains that he did them because he felt sorry for her, that she was always lonely and worked so hard by herself, but the courtroom and Mr. Gilmer did not like that answer.
In this time period, whites in the South constantly wanted to be seen as superior, and most became angry when that superiority was threatened. When Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on a bus to a white man is an instance of this. The moment she stood up for herself and challenged the superiority of whites, the white community became infuriated. This proves that in the mid-20th century, an “inferior” being can shamed upon and even put into jail by challenging a “superior” being, and these labels are solely based on opinions of race. That is exactly what is happening to Tom Robinson when he says he felt sorry for Miss Mayella. He’s putting himself above her, and this angers the whites in the courtroom.
This scene can connect to the theme of damage done by racism. Simply based on opinions regarding race, a black man can be, at the very least, looked down upon, if he were to challenge a white man. Since Tom said this statement in a courtroom, order was established, but out on the streets, a violent outburst would’ve probably ensued. It isn’t fair to those seen as inferior because of their race to be given harm for saying things are acting in a way that makes them equal or better than the superiors.
“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, then you would be scared too.” Page 261
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Atticus is asking Tom Robinson what happened the night that the alleged rape took place. Tom is talking about why he ran away from the Ewell house, even though he had not harmed Mayella in any way.
This can relate to racial profiling in America today. Many black males are being followed in shops and stores just because they are not white. I saw a video on a black man who dressed up in sweatpants and a ragged shirt, who went into an expensive clothing store. The man was actually very wealthy, and just wanted to see how people would react. While he was in the store, he was followed by employees, and was told that he couldn’t afford their clothing. He then came back a few hours later wearing a thousand dollar suit and tie, and was treated completely different. People have racist thoughts and act on them, even if they do not realize that they are acting this way. The man ended up telling off the store’s employees, and said they had lost his business.
This quote is a clear example of how racism affects people. Tom had done absolutely nothing wrong, but fled the scene like he was guilty of the crime that he is on trial for. This says something for how racist this town actually is. If a person is so scared of being somewhere, just because of his race, it really frightens me what these people might do to Tom. In a place like this, a black person cannot even walk around without fear. Fear of being attacked either verbally, or physically, just because of their color.
I agree, Tom fled because he knew that because he was black the situation would not look good. He was scared that he would have to go on trial for a crime that he did not commit. I wonder if Mayella had been seen with an unknown white man if the outcome would have been a little different?
Delete“Well, Mr. Fich didn't act that way to Mayella and old man Ewell when he cross-examined them. “The way that man called him 'boy' all the time and sneered at him, an' looked around at the jury every time he answered-'...'Well, Dill, after all he's just a Negro.'"
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Tom Robinson is being questioned by Mr. Gilmer, after Atticus interrogated Mayella, with the testimony of Tom, everyone realized that did not coincide at all with what Mayella said. Tom Robinson said clearly to everyone that he was only helping Mayella, his intention was being nice to her because she looks so alone.
I feel that Mr. Gilmer is not being fair to Tom, He is tormented him with previously problems that Tom suffered. Mr Gilmer is trying to show to the judge that Tom is guilty for having been convicted of a fight in which the payment was jail for several days. Mr. Gilmer also is trying to intimidate Tom to hesitate in their responses but he didn't succeed because everything that Tom was saying was absolutely true.
The themes that connect to this scene are the damage done by racism, when Tom was being questioned the attitude of Mr. Gilmer in different tone compare to the tone that Atticus used with Mayella. Mr Gilmer didn't realize that everything that frightened Tom was should be judged to be in some compromising conditions with a white girl. That's what scared him more and he told Atticus, "Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you'd be scared, too." Pg: 261
While some whites thought that blacks were dishonest, and people with very bad attitude and presence, they only feared them and what they did was to avoid all kinds of problems with them.
I agree with you karen, The black members of the community live along a dirt road down past the city dump. They did not live near the white people because they did not want to be in a situation like Tom. White people make them guilty because they knew they could no defend themselves.
Delete"Why did you run?' 'I was scared, suh.' 'Why were you scared?' 'Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too." page 261
ReplyDeleteIn this scene, Tom Robinson explains to Atticus and the jury what happened the night of November twenty-first. Tom explains that Mayella was the one that came onto him, he was not the the one that came onto her. After this statement, Atticus asks Tom why he ran away, why he was scared. Tom tells Atticus that if he was black too, he would be scared.
It really bothers that Bob Ewell has such a problem with Mayella having interest in a black guy. It's even worse that Mayella is now turning on Tom as well. The whole entire incident is her fault and now she is putting the blame on someone else. Mayella is making it extremely difficult for Tom to try and have a life in this cruel world. Tom is doing all he can to pull himself out of poverty, at the same time, the Ewell's are doing all they can to pull him right back under.
This scene one hundred percent, connects to theme of the damage done by racism.Tom tells Atticus that he would be scared if he were black too. Tom is so afraid because ehe doesn't want to go to jail and he doesn't want his family to suffer. He knows that going into jail will not benefit his family at all and his family needs him if they want to survive. Tom also knows that if he were white there would be no crime and everything would be fine.
“Tom took the oath and stepped into the witness chair.” ( Page 124)
ReplyDeleteIn this section, Tom had taken the oath and was now in the witness chair. Atticus was going to be asking him some questions and trying to help prove that he did not rape Mayella.
I think that Tom and Atticus are both very brave. Tom for being on the witness stand facing an all white jury, and Atticus for defending a black man and trying to get an all white jury to believe that he did not do the crime. It takes a lot for someone to know that odds are against them but to try anyway. Almost everyone in the town believed Mayella over Tom. Tom was black and that already lowered him in the eyes of the jury. During that time blacks were considered less than, Tom and Atticus both knew these facts and still decided that they would try and win over the jury. Once when I was in elementary school I had to race one of the fastest kids in the class. I knew that I was going to lose before I started the race but it did not stop me from running as fast as I could. I lost by a lot, but it felt good knowing that I tried my best.
The theme that best fits with this is the true definition of courage. Earlier in the book Atticus said, “ I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It’s when you know you’re licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see through it no matter what.” Atticus is defending a black man who was accused of the rape of a white girl and the people deciding Tom’s fate are all white. Atticus knows that he is most likely already beat or “licked,” but he is seeing this trial through. No matter how many people call him mean names, he is still trying his best to make sure that Tom does not go to jail.
On PG# 256 Scout states, “It came to me that Mayella Ewell was the loneliest person in the world. She was even lonelier than Boo Radley. When Atticus asked if she had any friends, she seemed to know what he meant, then she thought he was trying to make fun of her”.
ReplyDeleteAs explained in the quote, Scout realizes what life is like for Mayella and how lonely it can be. It also connects to how Mayella claims that Tom Robinson was attempting to rape her just because her father saw her behaviour with Tom Robinson from the window.
The theme used in the quote is realities. The theme connects very well to our modern day society with the increase in many teens isolating themselves from others and becoming depressed, a pretty revelation for some, and a reality for many.
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ReplyDelete“Yes suh, I had to serve ’cause I couldn’t pay the fine. Other fellow paid his’n”(Page 254)
In this scene Tom Robinson is explaining why he spent 30 days in jail. He could have paid a fine but did not have enough money so he served the 30 days.
What I find disturbing is how Tom could not pay but many white people at that time could. Tom is black and can’t get the best job. It is much tougher for him to make money compared to a white guy. It is upsetting to me how Tom had to live in jail for 30 days for something that he shouldn't be there for. Most black families during the great depression struggled to make a living and it shows here how Tom could not afford the 30 days of jail time.
This scene relates to the damage done by racism. It is clear that Tom is not as wealthy as a white man. Racism has made such a big impact that it affects the wealth between a white man and a black man. It is disturbing to me how this even happens. Everyone should be entitled to have any job they can get. But, that is not the case and I feel that Tom is working much harder than some of the white folks but getting less money.
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http://thinkprogress.org/education/2014/06/25/3452887/education-race
“Until my father explained it to me later, I did not understand the subtlety of Tom’s predicament: he would not have dared strike a white woman under any circumstances and expect to live long, so he took the first opportunity to run- a sure sign of guilt.” Pages 260-261.
ReplyDeleteIn this excerpt, Scout explains the situation Tom was faced with during his encounter with Miss Mayella. It seemed to be a lose-lose situation.
What I find disturbing is that Tom Robinson was forced to leave the scene because he was afraid of being convicted for a crime he never committed. In today’s world, if he stayed, he would’ve been given a fair trial if accused. If he ran, a fair trial would’ve also been given, but he would look guilty for running away. During the 1930s, Tom did the right thing by fleeing the scene. If he stayed, he would’ve been almost immediately convicted because being found there at the scene was evidence enough to a white jury to prove him guilty. Since he left, he also seems guilty because why would you leave when you didn’t do anything wrong? It really is a lose-lose situation, but running away was his best bet since he can attempt to explain why he fled.
This scene connects with the theme of the damage done by racism. Tom Robinson would’ve stayed at the scene if he knew he was going to be given a fair trial, but he’s smart enough to know that African-Americans are rarely given fair trials in this racist society. It’s sad that he was forced to run away to even have a chance of being proved innocent, even though today that would do more harm than good.
Racial discrimination was a key subject in Tom's trial. In the book it said that his case was hopeless due to the fact that he had to pass a racist jury.
Delete“Then you ran?”
ReplyDelete“I sho‘ did, suh.”
“Why did you run?”
“I was scared, suh.”
“Why were you scared?”
“Mr. Finch, if you was a nigger like me, you’d be scared, too.” Chapter 19, Page 261
In this scene, Atticus was questioning Tom about what happened the night when Mayella claimed that she was raped. Mr.Ewell started screaming Tom ran and Tom started running because he got scared and if that would of happened to Atticus he would of have done the same thing.
If i was in Tom's position I would of have done the same thing. I would of have started running away if i didn’t know what was going on. I would probably get scared too.
The theme that connects to this is the damage done by racism. In the late 1930’s there were a lot of places, neighborhoods, communities and other places were a lot of black people were being discriminated depending where they lived and other things.